Once a person realizes what a mess the water situation is here on Earth, the innovative information on 'primary water' is particularly interesting and confirming of things that can be tapped into. This was a most interesting perspective on water, and I enjoyed listening to Maria Wheatley being interviewed on the last day of March, 2015 by Patrick Timpone.  Her father was, according to the introduction from Patrick Timpone, the guru water 'dowser' of the world.  Here's what they have on the One Radio Network website about Maria Wheatley: 

Maria Wheatley

Earth Energies

Maria Wheatley is a writer, dowser and researcher of earth mysteries specializing in the geodetic system of earth energies and ley lines. She organizes regular tours of sacred sites and medieval churches and cathedrals in the South West of England to locate and interact with the monument’s hidden energies. Her late father was considered a Master Dowser who discovered the hidden chakra system within Glastonbury Abbey and how it was ritualistically used by the Royal Bloodline. For the past ten years Maria has continued researching the many ways in which our prehistoric ancestors harnessed and utilized the Earth Force. Her thought-provoking explanation of how ley lines originally channelled light into megalithic temples, and how standing stones sited upon certain circular patterns of earth energy absorb and transmit the Earth Force challenges our perception of ancient sites.
Maria has studied Landscape Archaeology with the University of Bath in Swindon, has written holistic diploma courses for the British School of Yoga, teaches reflexology, dowsing and past life regression for Swindon College and is co-author of Avebury Sun Moon and Earth a popular book which reveals the many ley lines and earth energies which were skilfully integrated into the megalithic architecture of Avebury Henge, a gigantic megalithic power centre in Wiltshire, England which contains the world’s largest stone circle. She has appeared on the History Channel, BBC radio and has lectured for the British Society of Dowsers, and she regularly gives talks and presentations for dowsing and spiritual groups in the UK. Maria has also written numerous articles for Prediction Magazine and the British Astrological Journal.

Show Highlights:

-What are ley lines?

-Energy created by underground water

-Geopathic stress and deciding where to build a home; should it ever be built over underground water?

-Why do we care about the energy of Stonehenge and other sacred sites?

-Harnessing the healing energies of the Earth

-Enhancing the energy of your water

-Imprinting distilled water with a lovelier resonance

-The benefits of imploded water devices

and so much more!! 

Here's the link to the topic 

oneradionetwork.com/environment/maria-wheatley-harnessing-the-earths-healing-energies-march-31-2015/

 ... and the link to her website, The Avebury Experience: www.theaveburyexperience.co.uk/index.html where you will find:

About Us

 

Maria is a second-generation dowser who is a leading authority on the geodetic system of earth energies. She was taught how to decode and divine the land by her late father, Dennis Wheatley, who was considered to be one of the UKs top Master Dowsers. 

Maria is an accomplished author of books on sacred sites and dowsing. She has researched the esoteric design canons of prehistoric sites, Druidic ceremonial enclosures and the Knights Templar for many years. Maria has studied Neolithic Britain and Bronze Age prehistory with the University of Bath and alongside other professionals, Maria combines her knowledge of archaeology, and earth energies with state of the art equipment to locate and detect the hidden frequencies that the Earth emits. Believing in the Earth Force or dowsing is simply not enough for Maria, she wants to show the world that the prehistoric designers of ancient sites could locate and harness earth energy. Her findings challenge our understanding of sacred sites. 

Maria has lectured and given workshops in America and Europe and has also appeared on the History Channel - she managed to get several of the participants who had never before held a dowsing rod - to successfully detect ley lines at Stonehenge, 

In the late 1980s, Maria studied astrology and tarot and during the 1990s turned her attention to hypnotherapy, past life regression and reflexology. She has taught complimentary medicine for Swindon College for over 15 years. She has also written holistic diploma courses for private colleges such as the British School of Yoga (BSY Group). She recently founded the Avebury School of Esoteric Studies which offers certificated courses on holistic subjects including past life regression, astrology and dowsing and which is affiliated with the Association of British Correspondence Colleges. 

Cosmologist, healer and author of HOPE Dr Jude Currivan endorsed The Avebury School of Esoteric Studies and has this to say: 

In the mid 1990s, I was very fortunate to be introduced to and guided in the art of dowsing by the great master dowser Dennis Wheatley. Dennis's enormous knowledge, straight-forward approach, easy companionship and willingness to answer all my questions(!) made him the perfect teacher. I'm delighted that his daughter Maria now continues the family tradition of sharing this wonderfully valuable art and science with the world. 

Maria's vision is to apply ancient wisdom to a modern generation. Imagine for one moment if we could integrate the Earth's healing and harmonic energies into hospitals, care homes, and schools. Another example, one global grid system is said to enhance our powers of communication and so Medieval Masons placed the pulpits of old churches on this grid line. If we could incorporate this energy into the classrooms of dyslexic and autistic children or those suffering with speech problems I am sure we would see a vast improvement. Living in harmony with the Earth's subtle frequencies is beneficial for all. 
 

Together we can change the world and create Heaven On Earth.

 

 

 

 Overview / Highlights --- 

Patrick starts with asking if there are certain magnetic forces, going back hundreds of thousands of years ago knew about.  To the Stone Age/ Neolithic, 5-6,000 years ago, these incredibly sensitive people looked at the Earth differently and they saw where ley lines were and different currents.  It's like two rivers of energy, yin and yang, and they intertwine. She's from Avery Henge where the 

a large heartbeat like energy pulses out.  Lots of sensitive people can feel the energies. Or if they can't they can use the medium of dowsing to locate these different kinds of energy.  Underground water, a particular type -- water that falls from the rain, sky, clouds and fills up the aquafir.  Then there's another type of water that is independently born in the womb of gaia, that's your holy world.  It was deemed to have healing qualities with the resonance in that water.  The ancients seem to know where the primary water, or yin water as she calls it, is located.  They'd put places like Stonehenge over these places due to the energy, which is from the primary water. 

Patrick then relates his experience having a 500 foot well drilled in years past to back up his primary water source being rainwater collection.  The dowser said he found primary water -- water made in the Earth which has never been above ground.  And if you can get that water, it would be amazing.  So they drilled but never hit it.  A lot of progressive thinkers are saying beyond life itself, the universe, can produce water.  The Earth produced silver, sulfer, gold so why not water, Maria says. 

There are a few wells in her area -- country stately homes have wells and some of which are deep yin / primary water.  It's not just the water below the surface the ancients were aware of it is the energy field it produces.  That spiral patterns of enenergy is constantly turning and affected by the phases of the moon, so that is what the ancients were looking for.  The energy field associated with it.....  It is producing a wonderous negative ion energy field which is good for you so then the area around that will be good for you/ a person.  

Patrick asks if you'd build a home over it.  It is true that if your house is associated with normal aquafir rain water it has been found to be geopathic stress and found categorically that with cancer patients, no matter what type of therapy you did your body takes longer to self-heal.   It's not being over an aquifir but more where two rivers or aquifirs cross, he thought.  

An underground stream that is associated with rainfall water, that produces a high hertz energy field that influences your brainwaves and body and will break your immune system down.  

A good hertz frequency, about 10 Hz she states is close to the alpha brainwaves, like is from the yin / primary water.  

It's perpetual, once we tap into that source, it will never run dry.  So the idea that the governments saying we'll run out of water, that is an impossibility. 

Going back to the early '90s, a bunch of people coming over from S Africa to work with her father (and her) to learn to find the geo spiral.  

There are lots of types of Earth energies, and Maria believes we can learn from our ancient ancestors and apply it to modern living and situations.  

Primary / yin water is a perpetual source of water.  There's been Dr Pollack (sp?) in the US has looked at the deep, deep well water and it's H302, so it has a more energetic property and it's alkalied on a negative charge --- so modern science is catching up with ancient divine law. 

"There is no need for draughts", it's self-perpetuating, it is constantly replenishing itself because the Earth is producing this from the get-go. It is believed it's produced chemically ..... she interrupts herself to say there was information published in New Scientist Magazine -- underneath Old Peking / Bejing China, there's a massive volume of water that is bigger than the Arctic Sea.  Under certain countries there are HUGE HUGE quantities of water. 

There's probably more water under the surface than there is on the surface of Earth.  Iraq is also water-rich, Patrick notes.  Hence the geo-political war includes this, because people know this.  She confirmed this, that the Middle East also has good surface water with the rivers.  China would be able to supply a good supply of water world-wide she said. It has never been fully mapped, just a few places have been named so far.  In these deep, deep, underground caverns they probably have their own weather systems.  

The energy phenomenons will differ in what they have under for water.  Stonehenge is one part of things that are much larger -- there's a secret military area next to Stonehenge which has monument after monument which people cannot access.  Somewhere like that has numerous ley lines crossing through it's center, like spokes in a wheel.  A vast amount of energy going into and out of the site.  You'll see a gigantic circle that is global.  

Say the ley line coming out of Stonehenge goes into the UK -- it goes around the world from there.  There are 12 holy circles it was said, which she presumes are zodiacal.  Think of them as circles and Stonehenge has several of them. It's a huge vortex area, people going there have life changing experiences because it's so intense.

We can learn from the ancients and apply it to the current generation.  If you were creating a new hospital you could integrate healing energies.  There are some things that cause problems with geopathic stress.  There are other grids discovered by a physicist.  

There are equally spaced grids, and a healing grid that crosses at a certain angle. (she elaborates on more details) It was renowned in ancient times that where these two grids intersected was a good place for communication.  You'll see pulpits in old churches being at this intersection, she mentions the Templers and the Masons who utilized this information.  

Patrick brings her back to talking about the Vatican and Masons to see if they used these things to their advantage.  Let's look at this today with people with autism or stammers, we can change the resonance of any building by integrating that fully into that site by placing the building in that localle.  Build appropriately upon the energy and you harnass the energies.  "Embue it with it's unseen power."

She confirmed they did and cited the buildings in England she is familiar with.  Some researchers say that Washington DC was build upon that as well.  In fairly ancient countries, they have the histories of Masonic involvement and she suggests looking at how they integrated these things.  This was just after the 30 minute mark. Old New York, for instance, build under the Masons. ...  The catacombs in Austria were utilizing the ancient wisdom. 

Today with the Internet and people like Patrick who are knowledgeable and putting this information out -- we're learning all the time and becoming free citizens due to this information, the information is no longer confined to the (elite).  

Patrick inquires about if we're in a golden age cycle within this iron age we're in ... She thinks we're on the cusp of a revolution that is going to involve the Earth.  We're looking to the Earth to being a living, sentient Earth with living creatures on the Earth.  Live more in harmony with Earth and nature.. If we can go back to the ancient wisdom and apply it to the current generation, and she thinks that's what's happening.  We're becoming aware of our food, the water, how we eat -- this is like the ancients knew.  Rekinding in our lives and souls today.

Patrick states : What we as a culture have done the last 100 to 150 years, the Earth is kind of angry and that is part of the what is causing the earthquakes and weather pattern changes.. he asks if the Earth is angry and is that conscious.  She answers that we have undoubtedly since the industrial revolution damaged the Earth.

We're all familiar with the ozone, and we are going through climate change she said.  If we look at the Earth as our One Mother and ask forgiveness like any mother, you can have forgiveness. 

We can return to Eden just by being more aware -- chosing our food, chosing the products we are going to have.  We can speak with our purses, our hearts our souls so the companies that produce the chemicals that are doing the damage are affected.  It's up to us as a conscious movement.  That's what we are, we're a conscious movement, Maria says. 

He asks about the fracking of the petroleum industry.  Maria answers that anti-fracking demonstrations in England, she refers to.  Those chemicals eating down into the beautiful yin, primary waters. Right now we are poluting from the outside in.  She says we have to think outside of the box and laterally for energy change. She states:

Communicate and pass on good, grounded information to people.  Whether you're spiritual or not, then you can see that you have a choice.  We do always have a choice.  

Yin and yang, female and male, you need both. .. what's the difference with the primary water and 'spring water' to drink.  She says the main difference is the spring water can be derived from very ancient waters that fell in the Jurrasic era and can be up to 30,000 years old -- that's going to be pure.  

Water, we can relate to it, it is sentient -- it is alive -- it is the living essence.  And water has memory.  Homeopaths tell us this.  

So whether you looked at the ancient water that surfaces as a spring.  The deeper yin water will be mineral rich and will have added to it from new waters as it is perpetually generated within the womb of Gaia. It will have a slighly more alkaline resonance to it.  Both types of water are very good to drink.  The deep aquafir water will be a healthier water to drink, it will  neutralize and alkalinize your body.    

Spring water is not necessarily 'yin' / deep / primary water, Patrick clarifies as a question. Exactly, she said. Some of it is very old and filtered through the Earth for thousands of years and it is very, very good for you. 

It's very easy to find with dousing. If you're shown how to douse it, it's easy to differentiate.  She asks people to take that quiet moment to make them feel what they'll feel from it.  She'll feel it in her solar plexus and heart when she's over it and she puts her palms down. If she's over an aquafir / rainfall water, it will make you feel differently with the dousal response. After a while you will feel the difference. So when you walk the landscape, if you sensitize your body to identify different kinds of Earth energy you can understand and interpret the landscape when you're walking it.

Patrick asks about the vorteces like at Sedona.  How's that different than at Stonehenge or Averbury, he asks.  She says they're similar she thinks.  She's been to Arkansas, Ohio, Pennsylvania etc., and when people go around with her, they'll recognize the energetic signature and say it's similar to what they've felt at Sedona as they lived or worked there.  It's a similar type of energy. 

You divine/ douse / atone the Earth and then build appropriate upon that. That's how you harnass the energy.  A dome shape does help -- Mosque, White House .. the Earth energies can then fill the space. 

 She uses 'imploded water' machine that cost her about 100 pounds.  Start with the water in your home.  So you start with the hot water sources.  It's based on water having memory.  So you then tie it to the main water source to your house.  

She then goes into the color coding of water, based on homeopathic principles that water has memories -- leave the water there for 20 minutes ... that will instantly change the resonance of your water.  

So you distill your water .. set it on a violet card and it will imprint it with a lovely resonance -- the water will take that on.  A certain type of water is put into a device.  She wanted to upgrade the whole house .. it's a way to encode the water in the whole house.  Her bath water, every single bit of water in her house is encoded.  Go to the color card and get a really good color of violet and that will encode your water.  Water 30,000 feet deep will come out violet.  Yin water will be white.  

Patrick refers to people doing magnets on their water (I've listened to that interview as well).  He asks for a resource from her for the imploded water and she suggested Googling it and adding 'UK' to it.  She actually looked for information while they were on a break and couldn't find it so that was interseting and shows she's not getting some sort of funding for suggesting a product! 

A listener sent them 'imploder. com'.  The beauty of the device is you switch on the water.  If you invest in this, which isn't too much money, you can take it with you -- it's the best value of money that could benefit her health and her family, she thought.  

It even juices up city water to be more beneficial -- You can follow the step by step instructions --- she said if she can do it anyone can do it.  At the end of the day, water is fundamental to our health. That's the first step to a healthier and hopefully longer life.  

If you don't want to go that far and you don't have a well and not into crystals, this is an easy and cheap thing.  

Live and learn. Learn and live better! ~ Mardy

Dr. Paul Cox and his 501(c)3 / nonprofit have been involved in looking at cyanobacteria for a long, long time.   

Here's the link to the website: (a portion of the 'about') 

www.ethnomedicine.org/about/default.asp

A TEDx talk (x = independently organized) available on YouTube, titled 

Secrets to Alzheimer's, ALS and Parkinson's Disease: Dr. Paul Alan Cox at TEDxJacksonHole, 

has this  information about Dr Cox, his work, and the presentation (just over ten minutes is all in terms of time). as well as the nutshell of what TEDx 'is', as you'll see, below:

Paul Alan Cox is a Harvard Ph.D. who has searched for new medicines from plants used by traditional healers in the Pacific and Southeast Asia. For these efforts TIME magazine named him one of 11 "Heroes of Medicine." His efforts in preserving island rain forests were recognized with the Goldman Environmental Prize.

In the spirit of ideas worth spreading, TEDx is a program of local, self-organized events that bring people together to share a TED-like experience. At a TEDx event, TEDTalks video and live speakers combine to spark deep discussion and connection in a small group. These local, self-organized events are branded TEDx, where x=independently organized TED event. The TED Conference provides general guidance for the TEDx program, but individual TEDx events are self-organized.* (*Subject to certain rules and regulations)

www.youtube.com/watch

Relatively few people who read this will know where Grand Junction is, but I encourage looking this information over because it could possibly help see this situation upon us from another angle, and reinforce what this topic is about, generally.

I encourage YOUsers to take this subject matter extremely seriously.  I have suggested that YOUsers approach studying about things to do with wellness/illness (for them selves or others they have influence over or responsibility for) -- approach your study time as if you are taking a class --- either for a week, a month, a weekend, and ultimately as if you're getting an advanced degree -- becoming a 'Master' -- perhaps you'll go on to be so well-versed it's like being a 'Doctor'/ having a doctorate.  

This comment is inspired by someone who has been doing that.  I call her PosterGal on my topics at Lumigrate, as she has not given me the green light for her name to be published on the Internet outside of the closed group on Facebook where I had the pleasure to get to know her and see her process unfolding in late 2014 and early 2015 when she was MASTERING the information about what's causing environmental illness per the teachings of the one who has the DOCTORATE in it, Steve Beddingfield.  

You'll find the link in the start of this thread, the main article above, to the topic about his images, his Facebook group, and his protocol.  I do believe I saw history in the making and am proud to say I was the first person to put the protocol on the general Internet with the topic I created in early to mid January, 2015. Again, this topic links you to more information about THAT, if you wish to look into it and see if YOU think it is 'all that'.  

So today, April 21, fully a quarter of a trip around the sun later, PosterGal posted many things that the lucky 1,700 in the group (which they've closed to newcomers in order to get more people up to proficiency on the rather difficult information) had the opportunity to see.  It was about water and algae and treatment, essentially and someone in the group commented about that 'they' are going to start trying to treat the water with chemicals and likely mess it up more.  

PosterGal countered that they wouldn't do that, they'll need to go to ozone and ultraviolet, she's said recently on other conversations that it's going to be extremely expensive.  

I'd added to the conversation with information that someone I know well works in the water/wastewater industry and makes the point that essentially it's one water that we have but it's split into two organizations treating it, and there's much more that technology has to offer but the consumers have resisted the costs.  Even a $2 rate hike per month per customer would cause pushback was the example given in a recent conversation I had.  

And are 'they' (those in charge of water to customers) doing things to the water due to algae?  I'd not been aware they were until I happened to watch the mainstream, local, television news on a day they ran a story about a new solar powered device that is able to pump 10,000 gallons/minute and move the water and thus keep the temperatures from being 'ripe' for blooming, which occurs twice a year with the changing seasons this source said (see the topic, link, information below for more details).  In this case it is the Jerry Creek Reservoir, which is a (or other places have said 'the') source of water for Ute Water to supply to its customers in the Grand Valley. 

Below is an expanded version of the essential part of what I added to the conversation, but I've elaborated more here about the tactics the laboratory worker used towards me in my dealings with him when trying to get a local laboratory to analyze rainwater I collected back in 2013; collected near my home in the Grand Valley area not up on the mesa, to be clear.  

I want YOUsers to be thinking about what's going into our waters, particularly things that are blacked out or greyed out or made fuzzy by the mainstream sources. Naturally geoengineering chemicals are something that has been historically blacked out (it's a black budget program), with it being grey now as I believe the powers that are supervising what we know have wanted us to gradually become aware and know about certain aspects so we don't freak out when they get to announcing it to the public outwardly and then only those totally out of the loop will be hearing it for the first time. Many around them will have had months and years to be aware and maybe educated and done the work to wrap their heads around it.  That's just my personal opinion but others agree with me recently.

I want YOUsers to be on the cutting edge, informed, effective and able to navigate this difficult time we're in that doesn't have to destroy our well-being and lives. If it already has before you knew something you now know, the symptoms can be reversed and many are! It's an exciting time.  (Much also about Monsanto awareness, it interplays a lot as you see at topics here at Lumigrate, and they're being hampered finally, there are a LOT of activists now taking aim and hitting them where it makes a difference!) 

Initially after the rain of 7/7/13 occurred, I Searched for labs in my area and found the one and talked with the man I later talk about here, but their equipment for what I needed done was broken -- meaning he had time to talk with me a bit about what I was getting at with geoengineering, something he'd not heard of and was open minded about.  So he referred me to another laboratory that was a mom and pop place that was handed down to brother and sister, who found 0.00 mg/l of total barium, 0.000 mg/l of total lead and 0.14 mg/l of total aluminum (m = milligram, so milligrams per liter).

I was very new to this and wasn't sure what to ask for from them in terms of anything specific and hadn't yet connected with activists who would have guided me on that so this was simply what an ordinary little lab in an agricultural and petroleum industry city would run when asked.  I requested lead because my December 2012 urine challenge for heavy metals had shown high lead levels. Barium because that was also elevated in my results and is one of the common things in chems of chems 'n' EMs/geoengineering.  

I thought I'd also add it to this topic at Lumigrate at this time: 

"The Grand Mesa where the reservoirs are doesn't have any agriculture aside from livestock and I don't think there's that much of it up there --- it's generally private land where people have cabins or houses, or it's public land (in some areas there is natural gas production). It's the largest flat topped / mesa in the world. There's nothing upstream of it, in other words.

There's been silver iodide to help with snow making (there's a ski area there, real estate and business development interests) for decades, which continues fairly secretively, and then naturally the overall geoengineering program is everywhere today, but the Mesa is an area that has 'cloud making machines' that are a big part of weather systems that end up going east from there and becoming the weather events everyone in the US is aware of. 

Today there's not a cloud in the sky and I have a view of the Mesa .... the sky is a white/silver at the horizon even at 8:30 a.m looking to the east (and still is at 10 am as I place this at Lumigrate) -- the sun angle really shows the particulates from the chemtrails. "What goes up must come down" and it comes down into the water and onto the ground on Earth and then becomes problematic.

Here, to my knowledge, they've not gotten anything out to the public about that (geoengineering chemicals, which I call 'chems' of the "chems 'n' EMs of g-e") affecting water going INTO water treatment plants but in SW Colorado the little town of Mancos was putting it in their newsletter and publishing the metal contaminants and trying to get the public involved.

I learned this from a Facebook friend I made via studying and being active getting the word out to others on Facebook about geoengineering back in 2013.  She'd lived there until just before we'd encountered each other -- she'd moved to the central mountains area of Colorado where we'd compare notes on what we saw from chemtrailing aircraft and the resultant EMs (electromagnetic frequencies) and resultant weather modification and etc. 

In 2013 I collected the first rain that fell (in July, on 7/7/2013) after the June 1 start of massive daily spraying which is when I woke up to the subject of chemtrails, and then later learned of the EM aspect and started covering it at Lumigrate by later that summer, realizing the importance of it.  

Thankfully the bigger, newer, more connected 'to the system' lab had their machinery down that day so they referred me to an old mom and pop lab which was now a brother sister lab the kids took over -- it found Total Aluminum to be 0.14 milligrams/liter -- sample 7/7/13.

Subsequent samples went to the more "connected-to-the-system laboratory" in terms of the key person I had contact with there.  He had a major educational and experience background in science and was connected into the local 'Math and Science Center' perhaps as a volunteer.  He initially was very interested in talking with me -- our families shared a common illness and one that aluminum has been proven to play a negative role in.  I thought 'this will be a great resource to have help look into this and we'll study some samples as he'll put his brains into how to test it and see what the labs out there the geoengineering community are sending to and they can get more business from the local people who want to test what they have around their homes'.  

HA! I was fine with paying for one sample but when a local activist what more samples done --- tons of them -- I approached a local business owner that had a business that was going to be injured by geoengineering in the area because they'd shown up on my Facebook wall and were clearly aware and concerned and wanting activism.  It wasn't clear how much they'd pay for, it wasn't clear what we needed to test for, so I collected samples with every storm and took it to the second laboratory to have them preserve the samples with an acid and we had up to six months to have them do the testing.  

However, in that timeframe the worker's behavior towards me turned to what I later realized was in line with what tactics disinformation agents are trained in (I refer people to look up the International Institute for Strategic Studies -- the leading authority on global security: facts, analysis, influence.  Their topic on Organized and Professional Disinformation Operations has 25 points on five pages. ... #5 -- Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule was one that I was met with -- as a potential customer paying them, mind you. "You should take a basic meteorology course or buy an old text book that will show you what you see in the skies is what's been there ..... this stuff you speak of doesn't exist" was essentially what was stated to me.  

Thankfully I'd noted the low, grey-infused chlouds overhead as I'd walked into the lab that day so I took the man outside and pointed at that and asked what would cause that.  Now without an answer, he suddenly was 'supposed to be off work 10 minutes after you got here (which was when he'd taken up telling me how I needed to learn basic meteorology, which I actually knew from my years working in atmospheric science and visibility research from age 24 to 32 and he'd known that about my history too, yet chose to attack me that way.

Very demeaning and not what I'd expected from a guy whose car had the 'coexist' and Obama bumper stickers on it which I'd noted my first trip there.  By the way, #17 on the list is 'change the subject', #18 is emotionalize, antagonize and goad opponents, #19 is ignore facts presented, demand impossible proofs, #24 is 'silence critics' and #25 is vanish.  Well, the samples vanished didn't they? I couldn't pick them up and take them to another laboratory.  At the time (summer and fall of 2013) I was unaware of the tactics such as listed at this reference I suggest or what are also known as Olensky principles. (Another key word if anyone is interested). 

I include this so YOUsers know what I've done as an activist, learner and educator which then translates into what YOUsers have available at Lumigrate and when I'm working as whatever type of consultant / educator about information and being an effective health information / consumer. Please go to the home page and read the About area about me, that's where I update what I'm doing and how to contact me if interested. 

So after that day I brought in one more sample, and he preserved it and knew they were to hold them until we had the funding person agreeing to run what we/I figured out to analyze (as the lab guy was clearly now NOT going to help figure out what process and things to look for) -- then I stopped in one day when driving by and he said they'd gone ahead and run them -- mind you this was against our 'plan'.  Again, this is after this main guy actually running the laboratory asked a or some scientists at the university and/or and math and science center (also funded by 'the system') about geoengineering and started acting the way I've described.  

Dietrick Klinghardt, MD said in an interview in (March, I believe) 2014, on One Radio Network (I have it on Lumigrate and a little overview of his words too) that geoengineering's chemicals are contributing to problems with the water because things in the environment -- whether in our gut/intestine or in the water sources --uptake the metals --- it's trying to do us a favor, as he put it .. it ends up doing a short-term function but long-term then we have problems we have to solve.

New Green Bee Purchased by Ute Water - Solar Powered, robotic pump / water treatment processing 10,000 gallons/minute --- the story is at the following link:

www.westernslopenow.com/story/d/story/ute-water-drinking-water-algae-bloom-solarbee/38294/RBC7jvqHCkCNUe2MI743aA

What you'll find there is a video that has "replacing chemicals at our source water" across it at the thumbnail/start AND then this story (I recommend watching the video, it shows the gadget, the reservoir and gives people an idea of what the enviornment around the reservoir is about --- so many people live in areas lower and downstream of places like this source and they get the additional runoff contaminants of all kinds and thus have even more of a problem with what's in their water.  POINT BEING -- look at the problem at this relatively pristine source on top of the biggest mesa/ flat topped mountain in the world and then translate that into what the reality is for where YOU live, or looking at the overall issue: 

 

Live and learn. Learn and live better! ~ Mardy 

Once again the 'infamous PosterGal' from Steve Beddingfield's Facebook group struck a home run with this link, which had other senior members saying they wanted/needed to have this guy (Miguel Vincent, the writer at the blog cited) in their hard research group.  I thought I'd bring it to this topic at Lumigrate for our YOUsers and so this can be a resource to help support what is being said generally on this thread. On another topic at this same blogsite posted around the same time, I noticed that Steve Beddingfield said that this was the best blogsite he'd seen from his vantage point about what he thinks needs to be related to people about biology.  Here's the link and then to topic -- hopefully I've talked up the site enough YOUsers will take the link to see other things, photos and more at the ASMblog.  

schaechter.asmblog.org/schaechter/2008/06/complex-simplic.html 

Complex Simplicity

Live and learn. Learn and live better! ~ Mardy

 More information to substantiate and suggest as resource -- posted, naturally, by one of the members of Steve Beddingfield's group, one of the more senior gals.  One that I consider part of the et al. in 'Steve et al.', as I refer to them, collectively.  

More below about Lynn Margulis. 

Symbiotic Planet: A New Look At Evolution

Although Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution laid the foundations of modern biology, it did not tell the whole story. Most remarkably, The Origin of Species said very little about, of all things, the origins of species. Darwin and his modern successors have shown very convincingly how inhe...

AMAZON.COM

http://www.amazon.com/Symbiotic-Planet-New-L…/…/ref=lh_ni_t…

The Must Reads  - Prepared, Produced, and Provided by ...... PosterGal, of course! 

PosterGal had provided this information in later April 2015 and I am now providing it here.  Highlights of the conversation that followed will follow as well: 

 Algal Poisoning Symptoms

 Dane Wiggington, at 22 minutes into this video of his presentation (YouTube link) talks about massive algae blooms and dead zones in the water, oceans' rising CO2 level, etc.  To connect this to geoengineering, which I've covered on topics at Lumigrate since I learned about it in 2013, and help people 'connect the dots', is my intention.   

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz4S6VHtPyo

And you can use the Search bar at Lumigrate to find the information about geoengineering, one topic is about chems 'n' EMs, I simplify it, and focuses on the medical / health aspects of the technologies involved, and the other is about my learning to look up and 'wake up' on June 1, 2013. 

Live and learn. Learn and live better! ~ Mardy

Largest Ever Bloom "Maybe", W Coast, USA

www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/toxic-algae-bloom-might-be-largest-ever/

Gulf of Mexico, Early July via Local Affiliate 

www.ktbs.com/story/29523527/growing-gulf-of-mexico-dead-zone

July 9, 2015 - Lake Erie Affecting Ohio

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/.../20150709-noaa-partners... .... a quote to get your attention:

“Last summer’s Toledo water crisis was a wake-up call to the serious nature of harmful algal blooms in America’s waters,” said Jeff Reutter, Ph.D., senior advisor to, and former director of, The Ohio State University’s Sea Grant program and Stone Laboratory. “This forecast once again focuses attention on this issue, and the urgent need to take action to address the problems caused by excessive amounts of nutrients from fertilizer, manure and sewage flowing into our lakes and streams.”  What you'll find at the link:

NOAA, partners predict severe harmful algal bloom 
for Lake Erie

Heavy June rains causing heavy nutrient runoff into lake basin

July 9, 2015

This image shows the extent of the Lake Erie algal bloom at its height in 2013 (top) and 2014 (bottom). Orange and red show concentrations that may cause scums and other issues. Different areas are affected in the two years because of wind patterns. The data came from NASA's Aqua satellite and was analyzed by NOAA's Center for Coastal Ocean Science. (Credit: NOAA)

NOAA and its research partners, using an ensemble modeling approach, predict that the 2015 western Lake Erie harmful algal bloom season will be among the most severe in recent years and could become the second most severe behind the record-setting 2011 bloom.

The effects of the cyanobacterial blooms include a higher cost for cities and local governments to treat their drinking water, as well as risk to swimmers in high concentration areas, and a nuisance to boaters when blooms form. These effects will vary in locations and severity with winds, and will peak in September.

The bloom will be expected to measure 8.7 on the severity index with a range from 8.1 to potentially as high as 9.5. This is more severe than the last year’s 6.5, and may equal or exceed 2013, which had the second worse bloom in this century. The severity index runs from a high of 10, which corresponds to the 2011 bloom, the worst ever observed, to zero. A severity above 5.0 indicates blooms of particular concern.

“While we are forecasting a severe bloom, much of the lake will be fine most of the time. The bloom will develop from west to east in the Lake Erie Western Basin, beginning this month. It is important to note that these effects will vary with winds, and will peak in September,” said Richard Stumpf, Ph.D., NOAA’s ecological forecasting applied research lead at NCCOS, who formally presented the forecast in a media event and science presentation at Ohio State University’s Stone Lab on Lake Erie today.

This graphic illustrates, thru the red bar, what the projected HABS bloom range for 2015 will be in comparison to the final bloom size of blooms over the previous 15 years. The wider portion of the red bar is the most likely scenario based on current nutrient loading data. (Credit: NOAA)

“This is the fourth seasonal harmful algal bloom outlook for Lake Erie that NOAA has issued,” said Holly Bamford, Ph.D., assistant NOAA administrator for the National Ocean Service performing duties of the assistant secretary of commerce for conservation and management. “NOAA’s ecological forecasting initiative, including this Lake Erie seasonal forecast, the NOAA weekly HAB bulletin, and the experimental early season HABs Tracker, provide science-based information that water managers, public health officials, and others need to make critical decisions to protect the health of their communities, understand environmental impacts, and mitigate damages to recreational activities that are a vital part of the region’s economy.”

The 2015 seasonal forecast uses models that translate spring nutrient loading into predicted algal blooms in the western basin of Lake Erie. After a relatively dry April and May, the heavy rains in June produced record discharge and nutrient loadings from the Maumee River, which runs through Toledo, Ohio as well as northeastern Indiana, will result in a more severe bloom. This marks the fourth year that NOAA has issued an annual outlook for western Lake Erie.

Models were developed by scientists at NOAA’s National Centers for Coastal Ocean Science  (NCCOS), the University of Michigan, LimnoTech, the University of Michigan Cooperative Institute for Limnology and Ecosystems Research, and the NOAA Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory (GLERL). The models use nutrient load data collected by Heidelberg University’s National Center for Water Quality Research.

“Last summer’s Toledo water crisis was a wake-up call to the serious nature of harmful algal blooms in America’s waters,” said Jeff Reutter, Ph.D., senior advisor to, and former director of, The Ohio State University’s Sea Grant program and Stone Laboratory. “This forecast once again focuses attention on this issue, and the urgent need to take action to address the problems caused by excessive amounts of nutrients from fertilizer, manure and sewage flowing into our lakes and streams.”

To provide more real-time information during the bloom season, NOAA has produced HAB bulletins for western Lake Erie since 2008. The bulletins will continue at the twice-weekly frequency established during last season’s Toledo event, and can be received by a subscription to the NOAA Lake Erie HAB Bulletin.  Additional information on the size and movement of the bloom can be found via NOAA’s experimental HAB Tracker. As the summer progresses, field observations on water quality, algal biomass and toxicity will be collected by NOAA GLERL and CILER, the Ohio State University’s Sea Grant Program and Stone Laboratory, Heidelberg University, the University of Toledo, Ohio EPA, and LimnoTech. USGS will work with NASA in providing satellite tracking of the bloom as well. These results will provide valuable information to regional managers and assist NCCOS scientists in further refining the accuracy of this year’s forecast models.

The Lake Erie forecast is part of a NOAA ecological forecasting initiative that aims to deliver accurate, relevant, timely and reliable ecological forecasts directly to coastal resource managers and the public as part of its stewardship and scientific mandates for coastal, marine and Great Lakes resources. Additionally, NOAA currently provides, or is developing, HABs and hypoxia forecasts for the Gulf of Maine, Chesapeake Bay, the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Northwest

True color satellite image showing last year's bloom in Lake Erie at its maximum intensity on September 29, 2014. Data from NASA's Aqua satellite. (Credit: NASA).

NOAA, NASA, EPA, and the U.S. Geological Survey announced, in April, a $3.6 million multi-agency research effort designed to be an early warning system for freshwater nuisance and toxic algal blooms by using satellites that can gather color data from freshwater bodies during scans of the Earth. The project will improve the understanding of the environmental causes and health effects of cyanobacteria and phytoplankton blooms. The effort includes the Great Lakes and will further strengthen initiatives like the NOAA Lake Erie HABs forecast.

Funding to support the NOAA forecast was provided through NCCOS, NASA’s Applied Science Health and Air Quality Program, the EPA-administered Great Lakes Restoration Initiative, the Erb Family Foundation, and the U-M Graham Sustainability Institute.

The research programs supporting this work are authorized under the Harmful Algal Bloom and Hypoxia Research and Control Act, known as HABHRCA, which was amended and reauthorized by Congress through 2018.

The National Centers for Coastal Ocean Science delivers ecosystem science solutions for NOAA’s National Ocean Service and its partners, bringing research, scientific information and tools to help balance the nation’s ecological, social and economic goals. Visit our website for more about NCCOS research.

NOAA’s mission is to understand and predict changes in the Earth's environment, from the depths of the ocean to the surface of the sun, and to conserve and manage our coastal and marine resources. Join us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and our other social media channels. 

 THE BLOB is what the mess in the Pacific is being referred to, now, as seen in this very good article at the blog area of Discover Magazine. By summer I was simplifying my words to just call it THE Stuff .... that means this interplay of mysterious bacteria with the other things it's being symbiotic with and mutating and etc. I highly recommend taking this link:

blogs.discovermagazine.com/imageo/2015/08/06/record-algae-bloom-laced-with-toxins-is-flourishing-in-the-blob/#.VdNZcxyAY-J

 Live and learn. Learn and live better! ~ Mardy

Once you're 'up on this stuff', aka THE Stuff (my term for it, to simplify), and you have your radar up for the information out there about what's going on in the world, on the Earth, above the Earth, etc., you can see the enormity of this issue. I'm not saying here that all these stories I'm going to share are definitely related to The Stuff, that's for YOU to be deciding for yourself, but I am increasingly confident that what I'm seeing and forseeing is mostly correct. What Steve Beddingfield has taught is mostly (at least) correct.

Keep in mind, we're with careers and backgrounds not as immersed in the learning of how to be 'researchers' as those formally considered researchers are. Will some not listen because of our 'credentials'? Is the amazing woman who just sang opera on a talent reality show 'an opera singer' based on her abilities she proved with, or did she not have all that a trained ear would hear had she trained formally and had the label 'opera singer'. When you were doing wonderful art that went on the refrigerator or wall as a child, were you 'an artist'? When do those labels come and go based on others' powers for labeling?

This is an age-old issue with people who have health symptoms: I'm better at figuring out what label for physical or mental symptoms conventional medicine providers who are 'qualified' to 'diagnose' often are, and even when it comes to me, myself, and I, people will sometimes snark "was that self-diagnosis or did a doctor say that?"  

Yes, the powerful man in my teens who totally missed that I had POTS (blood pressure drops when you stand up and many other things) and his colleagues ever since who have sometimes been correct, more often wrong or totally missing the boat completely and not even knowing that all my symptoms were that of POTS are still, in some people's minds, superior to me in figuring what's going on with me. Despite that I've spent considerable time every day for years thinking about what's going on with me and clearly doing a lot of homework (which I share much of on Lumigrate for YOU to benefit through using as well).

The last MD I was entrusting my care to had all kinds of information provided by me about symptoms that were unexplained by what the operating diagnosis was ('fibromyalgia'), to which he could have said 'what about Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome?' --- It seems improbably to me that a protoge of Teitelbaum and Bill Rea, environmental medicine guru in Dallas, Texas, wouldn't know of EDS, so I'll never know if they knew and weren't wanting to disclose, or just didn't know.  However, I happened to encounter someone who had privately told this provider she'd recently been diagnosed with EDS to which there was no response.  And yet he didn't tell me about EDS after that when I inquired with clear symptoms being described!

I belabor this here not to complain about providers, but to remind and 'cheer lead' people about the new way of people getting well -- by working with less burdened experts, more motivated experts -- former and current 'patients' working to recover their wellness.  Some have incredible abilities and backgrounds for researching. Some wish to teach, some are good at it, some are not -- but there is such motivation on the part of the ill who want to get better and find solutions they persevere just as one would with a difficult advisor for a Master's Degree or PhD.  

My first doctor pulled me out of my mother with forceps only a handfull or so of hours into labor because he had a golf tee time at 3 pm that beautiful spring Saturday in Denver, Colorado (USA). Think about YOUR history with providers. And then reflect on the Lumigrate YOU! Model -- create a new innovative team YOU! that will help you progress your wellness and decrease your illness symptoms, is my suggestion. 

I suggest YOU empower yourself even with news stories about what's going on in the world with other living things and figure out what YOU think, feel, believe to the best of your abilities today. Share with others. This is important and 'it's here and happening now'.

Spiders:

  ©2015 Mardy Ross

This is my picture from Grand Junction's I-70 / Horizon exit way in the middle of the US (and to the west a ways, but not far west of the Continental Divide), a phenomenon I've seen for a few years now in the summer -- this summer understanding what I'm seeing better than I used to, better than many others who will hopefully learn soon, and then realizing when learning of this story in the news, wondering if this is going to help motivate people to deal with the areas surrounding their homes or properties. 

thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2015/08/eek-spiders-team-up-spin-rare-mega-web-near-lake-ray-hubbard-shoreline.html/ 

On my Facebook when I posted the above link, last night, and tagged Steve Beddingfield, this is how our conversation went: 

Mardy: Other stories that might be related ... grizzly in Yellowstone that went berzerk, snakes on east coast with what is said to be fungus, chickens with what is said to be some bird flu bug, tadpoles with some bacteria was it, I can't recall, in many states -- deer dead near a lake in California -- those were just last week that I saw them and they were all recent/the last month if not that week/current.

Steve: Bees missing, little brown bats are gone, cats are dangerous for pets, the water, homes are uninhabitable, cancer is now more common than the common cold, frogs are chewing their skin, humans are killing each other. (Later he'd elaborate on dogs chewing their skin to the point of bleeding, and I'd be witnessing this with a dog at the same time as I'd see someone come into the pet supply store I was in and say their dog was immediately itching like crazy after a trip into a lake at a park they went to with it -- responsible pet owners getting a bath with the groomer ASAP, and possibly saving the dog's life sooner than later.)

Me/Mardy: Those controlling what the masses are exposed to were made aware of 'mold' which isn't really mold anymore, same as the algae's not really algae BUT the mainstream sources are telling people to keep everything out of the dangerous water and so they're making it simpler and less scary but hopefully doing enough that anyone who is well enough in the brain will realize the significance and do what's needed to be done. Those too affected already won't and we'll just see increasing numbers of basically 'everything'.

I keep wishing I was forseeing things incorrectly, and we'll just have to go along and see if I'm on track or not, but it's such a difficult time -- much tragedy and cleansing of the Earth going on while simultaneously the things that will be on the forefront taking us forward and solving the problems are very exciting and to be part of helping people learn about all of it .... 'grate' as we say around Lumigrate.

Links from what I've shared on Facebook or to show some of these things mentioned above, here:

abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/mysterious-fungus-killing-snakes-states-32974960#.VclPDoCwzac.twitter --- the stories about this started out about ONE state, then it was NINE 'and maybe more'.... This is simultaneously getting worse and spreading and affecting more BUT it is ALSO THAT THE CONTROL ON THE INFORMATION BEING RELEASED is VERY planned. Think about what this is, and how people might react. Think about how YOU are going to react. Think about the PRIORITY YOU ARE PLACING on elements in YOUR LIFE and I recommend getting more serious about this than you've been about anything in your past and present.

If we ALL do that, it's going to make a substantial difference ... in a family and home system, in a neighborhood system, in a community and town, city, or county-wide, state, country, continent and world. Do your best, that day, that hour -- the more this story emerges into mainstream's awareness the easier it will be in a way because you won't be as distracted with what mainstream is making you think is important and top priority. "I just have enough on my hands getting back into the school year responsibilities" one mother, my age, said to me yesterday. My response: "Well, once everyone knows the schools are a primary source of The Stuff and exposures you might not have to be getting kids to school and then you all will have time to study from home about this and figure out what to do for your yard, fish pond, house, foods, water .... pets."

There was silence.  Truly, sooner or later, YOU WILL DEAL WITH THIS. One way or another.  

YOU have such power and influence; and then don't lose sight of the trees by looking at the forest. Look at your water intake and quality first and foremost, your foods and diet, what you get on your skin doing your work inside and out, what you breathe in, etc. 

 AND CONSIDER GOING TO THIS LINK THAT'S THE MOST SIMPLIFIED, Picture-i-fied, and APPLIED (What to do about it) topic about THE Stuff which has gotten a lot of positive feedback from those understanding the information from studying via Steve Beddingfield's Facebook group, and elsewhere: 

www.lumigrate.com/forum/stuff-interloping-and-overwhelming-everything-examples-and-ideas-remediation-our-immediate-env

Live and learn. Learn and live better! ~ Mardy