Use your BRAIN! Estrogen, Testosterone and Dementia; Supplementing Bioidentically versus BigPharmaceutically

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For 20 years, I have treated aging women with bioidentical estrogens (mostly estriol and estradiol), and have seen excellent results in brain function. I tell all my patients that estrogens prevent dementias such as Alzheimer's disease in women, and testosterone prevents it in men. 

Estrogens do so much more than just deal with "hot flashes"! Estrogen is critical for prevention of depression, for skin texture and quality, sense of well being, energy, and prevention of dementias such as Alzheimer's Disease. A lot of women "accept their lot" when going through menopause as a part of life. It is not necessary or wise anymore to do that, in my opinion. The aging process is the result of loss of hormones, and today hormones can be replaced easily and safely, but perhaps not in the way that most people think when 'hormone replacement' is mentioned.

Suzanne Sommers has written elegantly about her journey towards health after breast cancer, and her insights should not be taken lightly. She is a savvy woman with her head on her shoulders. 

The brain is full of many, many kinds of receptors, including those for hormones, and for this discussion we're focusing on those for estrogen and testosterone which help modulate many intricate processes. When estrogen and testosterone are lost, these areas deteriorate, sometimes permanently!   Much like with balding men, the cells that grow hair will not come back if allowed to go untreated for too long. When you look at the brain of a patient with dementia on an MRI, do you know what you see? Not lesions (holes in the material), you see shrinkage of brain tissue! You lose brain tissue with dementia, and it can occur in a way that it doesn't come back, folks! That is why it is ultra critical that you address these issues early.

When I discuss these issues with patients, however, I sometimes get that raised eyebrow look! "Dr. Spurlock, I am not taking estrogens, they lead to breast cancer, cervical cancer and uterine/ovarian cancer." Oh, how I dread the following conversation. And I usually lose. I pity those frightened, uninformed women who will go into a world of brain loss due to their being scared witless by an over-actively negative world with too little accurate or correct information. I try to get them to at least read Suzanne Sommers' books. They usually quit coming to see me, because the deterioration gets worse and I am unable to address their issues due to their strict abhorrence of estrogen risks.


My usual rationale is as follows:

Which decade in a woman's life is her estrogen level the highest, naturally? The 20s -- the child bearing years. What is the cancer rate for breast, cervical, uterine and ovarian cancer in this decade? Minimal.

Which time in a woman's life are the rates for breast, cervical, uterine and ovarian cancer the highest? After 55 years of age. What is the level of estrogen, naturally, in these later years? Zilch. So explain to me what estrogen has to do with these cancers!? The combination of bioidentical estrogens and progesterone actually has the opposite effect.....prevention of cancers

"Okay, Dr. Spurlock, so what is all the hoopla from the medical community about estrogen replacement leading to cancers?" "Bad" estrogens should never be used. I don't want my patients taking Pre-gnant Ma-re U-rin-e (Premarin) for estrogen. You don't look like a horse, so you don't need to take horse estrogens; they are too powerful and have untoward side effects. Synthetic estrogens do not work in the body like the bioidentical estrogens do, they have untoward side effects. 

The Womens' Health Initiative that came out in past years with the data quoted by all the so-called experts only looked at the use of Premarin and Provera, the two worst estrogen and progesterone products in the marketplace, in my school of thought. Do you know what the increase in cancer in the women who took these two 'bad' products was? 0.41 %, less than 1/2 a percent. Really? Does anybody read these studies? Or is medical information and studies so confusing and the public so un-used to interpreting statistics that it's not relevant to them -- so they're turning to trusted sources for guidance?  What unfortunately has happened, is that some women are going to give up ideally supporting their brains with biologically identical hormone supplementation due to less than 1/2% risk of getting a cancer -- because of information studying a chemically similar hormone, which loosely is considered a 'bad drug'. I pity them.   In a way it's like comparing apples to oranges. ... they're both fruit, but VERY different. (And bones and tissues of the body also are affected positively by hormones, which we can discuss elsewhere on Lumigrate in the future.)

What is the number one cause of all cancers? Come on, you know the answer. We all know it, we just forget it......a crappy immune system! Can we look at the whole picture instead of just a small slice of incorrect information? 

There are some issues with estrogen and cancer we should address. The liver breaks down estrogen into different components, 2-hydroxy estrogen and 16-hydroxy estrogen, to be eliminated from the body. The 2-hydroxy estrogen is healthy, the 16-hydroxy estrogen is carcinogenic. The production of 16-hydroxy estrogen is due to a deficiency of indole-3-carbinol in the liver. There are specific tests to detect the ratio of these 2 estrogen breakdown products, so physicians can replace indole-3-carbinol in those ladies with too high levels of the 16-hydroxy estrogen. Maybe we all should be on indole-3-carbinol.

I always recommend that estrogen replacement be either topical (cream) or sublingual (under the tongue) to avoid passing through the liver as much as possible, further reducing any possible risk factors.

In conclusion, I believe wholeheartedly the usage of bioidentical estrogen and progesterone in women can be safe and extremely effective. Men's brain and cardiovascular health as well as other systems of the body can benefit equally from supplementing with biologically identical hormones.  Women and men both need to go to doctors familiar with replacement strategies for individual patients and the lab work needed to monitor these patients. Compounding pharmacists are very knowledgeable in these areas also and can help guide both the physician and the patient for best outcomes and products.  (They can also serve to help patients find qualified physicians in their geographical areas.)

My final complaint is this: "Regular" physicians have no problem throwing all kinds of synthetic estrogen/progestin products in huge amounts at women in the form of birth control pills (with significant risk profiles), yet they run in horror at the thought of giving older women any form of natural hormones that exactly match what their bodies produce naturally. Why? Exactly where does "this" logic come from? I haven't a clue! Maybe it is the pharmaceutical industry trying to make that buck. But aren't doctors supposed to be smarter than this and use their brains? Aren't we all?  Go figure!  Actually, go learn, and help direct YOUR providers to information you find helpful and want their collaboration with YOU on.  

Mardy's Note: Empowering Piece, Dr Spurlock ... And FYI, "Print" is a function right here on this page for that reason! There's also an email function OR people can block and copy the link and email that to people they want to help 'get on board' the thinking train!).  

 

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"There is no one to blame. There is simply taking action!"........Wm. Marcus Spurlock, MD Dr. Spurlock presently works in Dallas, TX treating people with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Bio-Identical Hormone Deficiences and Environmental Illnesses. He has been doing this work exclusively for the last 9 years. In the fall of 2011 he opened a new health center; please visit his website, which is where he posts education beyond what is sprinkled at Lumigrate. http://www.renewedvitalitymd.com/ Through a total body approach, the treatments he and his team provide are 85-90% successful in returning patients to their previous health potential. You can see his complete vitae in Lumigrate's forum "About Our Writers" (link: http://www.lumigrate.com/forum/my-vitae-wm-marcus-spurlock-m...), and the majority of his contributions on Lumigrate are in the FMS/CFS/CPain section, where you'll see a forum which includes his name: http://www.lumigrate.com/forums/health-issuesdis-eases/fibro....

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MANY EXCELLENT POINTS which ReSound for ME!

I very much appreciate Dr. Spurlock writing this piece and hope that it will, at the VERY LEAST, be read by many people and acted upon by those who feel it resonates for them to at least go further and look into more information.  I'm pleased to say that after it was posted here for about a year, I'm now amending my Comment to include information from compounding pharmacists, since, well, they're part of the TEAM when you look at integrative, functional medicine, and are increasingly being demanded by consumers.  

Last year in 2010 when I wrote this comment initially, I wrote about my experiences in the past when I was given birth control pills which at some level I suspected / felt / sensed were not right for me.  Not once, but TWICE, I had my significant others get vasectomies in those years when I was post chronic fatigue syndrome and onset of the more 'fibromyalgia' phase.  Just this past weekend (in 2011), I had the unplanned pleasure of talking with a woman about my age who had no medical background at the time she was found to have a stage 1/2 breast cancer and hear her story of what she went through and what she has done since to up her game related to nutrition, etc.  Part of what she said included a similar 'sense' that BCPs had been part of what contributed to her issues.  We naturally have no way of knowing, but I also know that for ME, my sense about biologically identical hormones is positive (which BCPs are not, you cannot get a patent on something found in nature as you have to have invented something unique and hence that difference is the 'fly in the grease' so to speak'.)

I want to include in my story here, as it might help someone else who is way far back in my path of trials and tribulations and expenses and PAIN, that I ended up resuming BCPs in my mid to late 30s because my face was breaking out in unbelievably bad ways (and had done it ONCE at age 20, by the way, I've never quite figured out what that was about except a blip on the radar screen of the impending collision.).  I was going weekly to expensive and time consuming facials and after a couple of months she said 'if your skin doesn't do this when you're on birth control, why not go back on them?'  HENCE, as Lani Wallace and any esthetician who has medical background (or those that don't even) will attest, I am adamant about having estheticians aware of the outward signs and symptoms people go to them with which indicate a hormone or food allergy problem so they get properly treated.  And in my book, properly means becoming equally aware of biologically identical and pharmaceutical routes of care and prescriptions.   

Sadly, while I could wrap my head around paying an esthetician $75 a week for a facial, I couldn't wrap my head around paying out of pocket the hundreds of dollars to see a non-insurance based provider.  By that point I had been prescribed by one provider in the past a topical progesterone, as my hormones in my mid 30s had indicated a progesterone deficiency.  Sadly, that provider quit the field of gynecology due to the increased costs of doing business in that field and I had moved an hour away to Denver.  About that time I became an OT and was working crazy hours and my exercise/nutrition regime/flow fell apart and then so did my health and I was constantly in the doctors office simply working on infections, popped ribs from coughing, low energy/fatigue, and the focus went off of anything to do with a little hormone irregularity and I merrily took the BCPs my insurance paid for and my providers knew how to prescribe.  

I wish I could go back and do that era of my life over again and see what would have been different.  BUT had that been the case, things would not have lead me the way they have, and you and I would not be sitting here writing or reading Lumigrate.  

Time after time, I can look back on my medical care and see how many unfortunate mis-turns were made.  I also have had several VERY GOOD doctors and providers who have helped me put things back together again, and I continue to learn now, mostly from the providers who are writing on Lumigrate as featured experts, just like you read and learn here! 

I really encourage people to find Ms Somers' books --  'Ageless' is the one I have on my shelf. I also suggest people to keep reading and recognize that there are differing opinions within the field of hormone replacement related to the amounts to prescribe.  I've been surprised by one of my doctors (osteopath Ilene Spector) who said that her experience has been that while most people do best with biologically identical hormones, some people's bodies just do better with the molecularly similar (but not identical) pharmaceuticals that are therefore patented.  She is an expert in the field of osteopathy that The Cranial Academy is about and can feel/sense/interpret all kinds of things in a person's body, such as how the pituitary or hormone system is functioning altogether.  There's just always more to learn as we go down the rabbit hole, so to speak! I very much encourage you to do what I used to teach my patients with chronic illness on their first day with me, as we typically had lots of learning to do about the occupation of being a proactive medical consumer: get centered with deep breating and meditation so that you're in touch with what is going on inside you, because THAT is your truth place, and you'll be better able to know what you should be doing with yourself and the information and provider options that come through your world. 

While not everyone has access to a provider that has that ability with their 'hands on', everyone does have the ability to develop their sense of what is right for them, their intuition about themselves and other things surrounding them.  That starts with deep breathing and mindfulness and there are many resources here on Lumigrate to point you along that path.  Everyone's BEST doctor is inside!  

The American Academy for Anti-Aging Medicine has a website to look up, naturally, but I wanted to link you to MSN because to my knowledge it's portraying things in an even handed/unbiased yet informative way. Controversy surrounds it's innovative approaches and the providers who embrace it in their communities and naturally doing any form of Search on the Internet will also set you on your way for self-study. 

I encourage people to research always.  Think.  Talk to others.  And mostly, decide for yourself what YOU think makes sense for You, and set out to get a team around you who can provide that. And I hope you keep coming back to Lumigrate as well and realize I'm continuing to work to get new providers and information on the topics people are interested in.  

Here's that MSN article link:  www.webcitation.org/5joHw1pMA

~~  Mardy

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About Nutrition .....

Since Dr Spurlock's piece brought up the immune system, which has much to do with nutrition (and thus supplementation for those who subscribe to that philosophy), I wanted to provide the link for the overall section on Nutrition that's 'over' supplementing nutrition and includes foods and recipes and etc, to clarify for people is: 

www.lumigrate.com/forums/preventive-medicine-concepts/nutrition

Also, for those who aren't as familiar with how to navigate around a forum like ours, the links are just above the topic.  Example: At the top of this page, above the title of this topic about the brain, you see Home and then all the 'tree' from the home page to this forum.  The last one will be the one that takes you 'up' one level, two back takes you up two levels, or you can go back to Home, etc.  Hope that helps!  Keep learning!  GRATE Discussion here, thanks everyone!

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Live and Learn. Learn and Live Better! is my motto. I'm Mardy Ross, and I founded Lumigrate in 2008 after a career as an occupational therapist with a background in health education and environmental research program administration. Today I function as the desk clerk for short questions people have, as well as 'concierge' services offered for those who want a thorough exploration of their health history and direction to resources likely to progress their health according to their goals. Contact Us comes to me, so please do if you have questions or comments. Lumigrate is "Lighting the Path to Health and Well-Being" for increasing numbers of people. Follow us on social networking sites such as: Twitter: http://twitter.com/lumigrate and Facebook. (There is my personal page and several Lumigrate pages. For those interested in "groovy" local education and networking for those uniquely talented LumiGRATE experts located in my own back yard, "LumiGRATE Groove of the Grand Valley" is a Facebook page to join. (Many who have joined are beyond our area but like to see the Groovy information! We not only have FUN, we are learning about other providers we can be referring patients to and 'wearing a groove' to each other's doors -- or websites/home offices!) By covering some of the things we do, including case examples, it reinforces the concepts at Lumigrate.com as well as making YOU feel that you're part of a community. Which you ARE at Lumigrate!

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ITC Compounding and Natural Wellness Pharmacy's Perspective

I very much appreciate Dr. Spurlock's inclusion and credit to compounding pharmacies as a resource, for starters. AT ITC we have been doing BHRT since the late 1990’s and have always felt that estradiol delivered transdermally (thru the skin) in physiological doses does not increase the risk of “estrogen induced cancers” and, like Dr. Spurlock, we feel that estradiol is essential to slow the aging process in the brain, bones, skin, etc.

We also never give estradiol without making certain it is being balanced by progesterone even when a women does not have a uterus because she most likely still has breasts, brains, skin, bones, etc., and all those tissues need both estradiol and progesterone to be healthy.

We also always work to make certain that the adrenal hormone cortisol is within the proper range because both high levels and low levels of cortisol will disrupt estradiol and progesterone’s ability to work properly just as it affects the thyroid hormones from working properly. We feel that you must balance theses hormones and not rely on high doses of any one of them to treat symptoms.

We believe that only physiological (the amounts the body made) doses are proven safe and Dr. Spurlock often uses higher doses because he feels that as long as you do it transdermally it is safe. That is a small difference in opinions, but our prescribing provider at ITC/Becca Slomiany, NP, will not recommend doses that are higher than what a woman would have made when she was a young, healthy, reproductive female because we have not seen studies showing that the higher doses are safe.

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, Passed On 12/21/12 Castle Rock, Colorado, USA http://www.itcpharmacy.com/

(Note from Mardy: Our 'cupcake' pharmacist educator (crusty on the outside, soft on the inside, could also be sweet and colorful) emailed his business colleagues on October 1, 2012 to announce he and his oncologist looked at the response from the final treatment option they had tried related to cancer of the pancreas, which had been diagnosed earlier in the year. Ever the 'take-charge' guy, he wrote "and my oncologist agrees with me... and will be arranging for hospice next week.). Challenged with our first expert contributor who was going to die, and being a health education website which includes information about end of life illnesses, I emailed back and asked we could maintain his contributions to allow his wisdom to help people in the future, and have the signature here reflect things, as you see it, including the 'cupcake'/humorous slant, since that was how he had always "rolled" in our interactions. "Thank you, Mardy, I have enjoyed our friendship" was the blessed response and cherished words which were the last I heard from this treasured friend to Lumigrate. Yenta thoughtfully prepared a special tribute article titled "Air Kisses", which I encourage you to journey to sometime and see how the rest of the team of experts at Lumigrate who knew Gary through our collaborations, contributed their thoughts and blessings. http://www.lumigrate.com/forum/air-kisses . WARNING: Have a tissue handy and be ready to SMILE. When Gary set his signature up when beginning to write on Lumigrate in early 2010, he said this which I want to stand posthumously:

When I'm not at ITC Pharmacy talking on the phone or in person with medical providers or consumers from all states in the United States and beyond who are looking for guidance about compounded medications or supplements, I'm enjoying life outside of medicine. I'm regularly on the golf course or taking my dog on walks with my wife, juicing and making healthful meals to throw my favorite hot sauce on. I look forward to reaching new people to help them improve their health through Lumigrate.com, so don't hesitate to contact us.  Our business page on facebook is at www.facebook.com/profile.php

Gary fortunately had a strong partner in Allan Jolly, and I understand Gary's wife has filled Gary's seat as co-president. We all benefitted through his education here because he was interested in this form of education despite it being another 'chore' that delayed his getting home to his wife, dog, or golf course. Blesssed 'Air Kisses' Gary, no resting in peace wishes from me for your soul, Gary, have a hole in one and celebrate with a particularly nice glass of wine is my wish for you. ~~ Mardy (January 2013)

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Re: Use your BRAIN! Estrogen, Testosterone and Dementia; ...

I appreciate both Dr. Spurlock and and Gary King's insights into this issue.  I have seen the negative effects of using a synthetic hormone- resulting in breast cancer.  This was sadly, a friend whose husband worked in the pharmaceutical industry producing those synthetic hormones.   I agree wholeheartedly that we all must listen to our own bodies- and that we need to become mindful to our personal needs. 

I do have a good friend who is a local compounding pharmacist.  She is on the same page at Gary King in the use of  transdermally delivered hormones, and balancing all the hormones properly.   My husband, an EPA chemist, has brought information that confirms the great benefit of transdermal treatments- the main research shows that much lower doses are needed when compared to the oral, synthetic doses.   That in itself reduces much of the contraindications. 

Otherwise, I bow to the greater experience of both Dr. Spurlock and Gary King. 

Be well,

Robin

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Amazing, Robin... Thanks AND for the Bow!

I'm afraid it might go to their ego's too much if you bow, how about a curtsie?   <grins!>

I'm sorry about your friend, as I am sorry for anyone whose health has been impacted negatively from what 'we didn't know' wasn't good for us.  To me, it's part of the growing pains of the unbelievable growth of information and technology that has happened in the last 100+ years, and I have confidence that there is much learning going on and change, and simply appreciate when those who are so very actively part of that come together to make things shift.  

So thank you for being present and involved with Lumigrate, which is my "piece offering" to the puzzle (misspelling / pun intended).  What you wrote here is very impactful from my standpoint so I'll presume it will be to others ~~ Mardy

PS -- and SO amazing what your husband and you have been involved with in the past AND present, and we can only presume future.  Wow.  (I might remind people reading anew here that when I got chronic fatigue syndrome working in a new (government) building from the fumes overwhelming my impaired system, he was on the team that was discovering and labeling 'sick building syndrome', which was slightly different in scope but still, totally interesting 'coincidence' to me.  

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Live and Learn. Learn and Live Better! is my motto. I'm Mardy Ross, and I founded Lumigrate in 2008 after a career as an occupational therapist with a background in health education and environmental research program administration. Today I function as the desk clerk for short questions people have, as well as 'concierge' services offered for those who want a thorough exploration of their health history and direction to resources likely to progress their health according to their goals. Contact Us comes to me, so please do if you have questions or comments. Lumigrate is "Lighting the Path to Health and Well-Being" for increasing numbers of people. Follow us on social networking sites such as: Twitter: http://twitter.com/lumigrate and Facebook. (There is my personal page and several Lumigrate pages. For those interested in "groovy" local education and networking for those uniquely talented LumiGRATE experts located in my own back yard, "LumiGRATE Groove of the Grand Valley" is a Facebook page to join. (Many who have joined are beyond our area but like to see the Groovy information! We not only have FUN, we are learning about other providers we can be referring patients to and 'wearing a groove' to each other's doors -- or websites/home offices!) By covering some of the things we do, including case examples, it reinforces the concepts at Lumigrate.com as well as making YOU feel that you're part of a community. Which you ARE at Lumigrate!

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NEW research studies in 2012 re: age of changes/sex differences

I wanted to add a link here to a piece I posted today in the brain forum related to new studies that are pouring out these last weeks of the first month of 2012 related to seeing changes starting in the 40s with cognition in those who develop issues, and there being differences in gender related to onset, development and treatment.  Here's the link: www.lumigrate.com/forum/brain-changescognition-different-menwomen-and-trace-40s-new-info-coming-out 

Live and Learn. Learn and Live Better! ~~ Mardy

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Live and Learn. Learn and Live Better! is my motto. I'm Mardy Ross, and I founded Lumigrate in 2008 after a career as an occupational therapist with a background in health education and environmental research program administration. Today I function as the desk clerk for short questions people have, as well as 'concierge' services offered for those who want a thorough exploration of their health history and direction to resources likely to progress their health according to their goals. Contact Us comes to me, so please do if you have questions or comments. Lumigrate is "Lighting the Path to Health and Well-Being" for increasing numbers of people. Follow us on social networking sites such as: Twitter: http://twitter.com/lumigrate and Facebook. (There is my personal page and several Lumigrate pages. For those interested in "groovy" local education and networking for those uniquely talented LumiGRATE experts located in my own back yard, "LumiGRATE Groove of the Grand Valley" is a Facebook page to join. (Many who have joined are beyond our area but like to see the Groovy information! We not only have FUN, we are learning about other providers we can be referring patients to and 'wearing a groove' to each other's doors -- or websites/home offices!) By covering some of the things we do, including case examples, it reinforces the concepts at Lumigrate.com as well as making YOU feel that you're part of a community. Which you ARE at Lumigrate!

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