Jacob Teitelbaum, MD Has Come 'From Fatigued to Fantastic'

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"Feed me now or I'll kill you!" got a round of laughter from the crowd listening to Jacob Teitelbaum, MD, or 'Dr. T'. It certainly hit home for me.  He broke things down in a very entertaining way, to the "SHINE Protocol" -- sleep, hormones, infections, nutrition, exercise.

 

For as long as I can remember I've been studying and incorporating what I learned in the books of Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum. My doctors who have helped me past and present have been learning from his work as well, so it was a complete honor to hear him speak at the conference this past weekend. (Mardy's note: this is a blog I wrote in July 2009, transferred here due to Dr T being tops in the field of FMS and fatigue and my wanting to have people learn about him, be reminded about him, certainly follow the link to his website if interested).

He has helped 3,000 patients directly and now is focusing on physician training, and in large numbers:  4,000 physicians in Indonesia and 400 in Virginia was his immediate schedule. He is the medical director for Fibromyalgia and Fatigue Centers as well.  MARDY'S NOTE AFTER THIS WAS WRITTEN, F&FCs are no more, and so he is FORMER Medical Director of them and has that alotment of time to go back to doing consultations remotely with people and has a woman who works for him doing consults, both have reasonable rates, in my opinon. See link below to his website. 

I found my 2001 edition of his book (the first came out in the mid '90s), when he had developed products to simplify the purchase and consumption of the vitamins, minerals, and herbs he recommends.  It is now in it's 3rd edition but I tend to not rebuy music from LP to CD any more than I buy a new edition of a book, as I now refer to website information, in this case endfatigue.com. 

The products are available at his website and in health food stores and he specified in his presentation on Sunday that he does not get any revenues from the sale of the products.  They are powders which certainly has an appeal for those of us who are 'over' taking all the pills we end up taking.  He said you can take much less than the recommended dose of the "Revitalizing Forumula" -- he takes 3/4 of a tablespoon per day. Mardy's note: I have since heard him speak in 2010 on television and say the proceeds are donated to a fibromyalgia-related cause, so if this is a meaningful detail to you, please check out and if you find anything out, please let me know so I can have more answers, as this is kinda wishy-washy from my standpoint.) 

Dr. Teitelbaum speaks from experience: his studies to become a medical doctor were disrupted by chronic fatigue which caused him to quit school and become homeless for a time.  Some of the people doing outreach were from the alternative medical community.  Silver lining to that cloud is that he learned from them and utilized their information to get well and incorporates it in what he brings to us through his books and lectures to professionals.  He considered becoming a naturopathic doctor but decided to continue to become a medical doctor who blended in alternative medicine into his treatment protocols.  The acknowledgement in the front of his book appreciates the patients he has learned from, and it was clear in watching him linger after the event talking with people with the condition that we have a great deal to learn from him. 

The highlights (and this was a SHORT presentation, so this is just my offering of notes from what he said): 

Fibromyalgia is: When you're exhausted and you can't sleep and you have widespread pain. Why?  Your body is spending more energy than it can make.  (Like fuses that blow in electrical systems to keep the house from burning down.)  It's a disease of people pleasing, trying to get approval from someone who won't give it, which sets you up for not being able to say 'no'.  (Lumigrate's medical expert on video Christopher Lepisto ND states related to FMS his opinion that a stressful event is typically associated with FM and chronic fatigue onset. Dr. Young has prepared an interesting presentation about stress in childhood and chronic illness and chronic pain which we look forward to bringing to you soon -- please refer to the podcast area here at Lumigrate or find us at the iTunes store, it was episode 000, the first one where we introduce this.) 

The hypothalamus is a key in sleep and a cascade starts where things go awryIt takes more energy to relax muscles than it does to tighten them, so the muscle belly gets tender points (not to be confused with trigger points).  Pain is not the enemy -- it is the body's way to say something is wrongThe analogy he used is the oil light on a car: if the oil light goes off, is it the enemy?  If you treat the underlying causes of pain, pain goes away.  Well, that sounds simple enough, right?  Well, it's not, but if you have self discipline and can muster some energy to study or recruit a friend who can help you, Dr. Teitelbaum literally has thrown out a rope that you can pull yourself up from chronic illness to chronic wellness.

Depression: Ask yourself the question 'Do I have many interests?'  If you answer 'no', this indicates depression.  'Yes, but I don't have the energy for them' is more what someone with FM will answer. 

There are equal numbers with 'sudden onset' versus 'gradual onset'.  Sudden onset indicates infection, injury, toxic exposure, pregnancy.  Gradual indicates hormone deviciencies, including hypothyoridism. 

When it comes to labwork, think about 'how they determine what 'normal' is'.   Statistically, they take a bunch of numbers and find the mass, go two 'standard deviations' out.  But that doesn't mean the lab # is normal for you.  He had a great analogy: Imagine you take 100 people and their shoe sizes are 4 to 13.  So the 'normal range' is established, but he is given a pair of size 6 shoes -- except he wears a 12.  The shoes don't fit, but he's told 'but it's in the normal range". 

SHINE Protocol:

Sleep -- Get 8 hours of sleep.  He has lists of the medications he recommends for FM on his website (link below), but he had an important highlight: the cheaper medications are his preference (Neurontin, for example).  The symptom analyzer on his website is an excellent FREE tool which gives you customized feedback based on your symptoms -- things you can do on your own and then a letter to your doctor explaining what you likely have and some suggestions for him or her to team up with you about.  

Hormones -- He's a proponent of Armour thyroid (thyroid is a hormone).  Lumigrate's video "Hypothyroidism: Misunderstood, Misdiagnosed .... Missed!" provides an hour about thyroid so you can be effective in asking your health advisors how to help you with it because it is so underdiagnosed (and we've made these seminars appropriate for the providers to watch as well as the public, so share with them if you need!).  Adrenalin is another hormone, and 'adrenal fatigue' can be tested with morning cortisol levels or as with thyroid, a good picture can be made with symptom analysis.  Doctors don't typically diagnose this disorder because there isn't a code for anything with adrenal problems unless it's a very severe form which literally is life threatening, and I'll write about that another day.  If you get dizzy when you stand up or have that 'feed me now or I'll kill you' feeling, adrenal fatigue is a likely suspect.  Estrogen and progesterone are factors and he suggest the bioidentical form of supplementation. 

Infections and inflammation: Yeast in the gut that has overgrown is the cause of the immune system going awry and leading to chronic infections.  Probiotics, in the form of 'pearls' so they are not killed in the stomach are his suggestion, as well as good quality fish oil.  Studies have shown treatment with generous doses of fish oil to be 2x as effective as some NSAIDS at pain related to inflammation. 

Nutritional support: He made it simple: Eat a good diet and use supplementation. 'The Energy Revitalization System' products were at the top of his list, but in about 1/4 to 1/2 the serving recommended.  Taking ribose can increase energy 45% -- so perhaps reach for that instead of coffee when you're needing an energy boost!

Exercise: as able -- gentle stuff; walking, swimming. 

I've dusted off his book and I can't more highly recommend it... 'From Fatigued to Fantastic' and his website: www.vitality101.com.  I hope this has been a helpful overview for you and gets you going in the right direction. 

I'll be continuing to bring information to you from the conference as well as review other books which are appropriate as follow up, such as 'Adrenal Fatigue' by James Wilson, ND, DC, PhD, which provides supportive information about adrenal fatigue. Note: I have done that, as stated! I covered it in the Chronic Fatigue forum as well as the on the Lumigrate bookshelf forum and I can't more highly recommend both of these books. Remember, our providers learn from US -- I've taken these books to my providers in the past and they've gratefully accepted them and not only read them but incorporated the information into their practice along with resources from others who were knowledgeable!  That's very gratifying to think so many people have better information and treatment from my provider today because of a simple $20 book I could provide as a year end 'thank you' present in the past.   

 

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Re: Jacob Teitelbaum, MD Has Come 'From Fatigued to ...

I run a fibro support group and in the beginning had shown the DVD of his for my members.  They found it enlightening to find they can take ownership of their fibro and do something the doctors never told them they could do.

His DVD is one of a few I keep with intentions of playing again next year.

 

Mary Seroski

Boise Fibromyalgia Support Group 

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Geeky Granny Mary from Boise, THANK YOU!

 It's always helpful to hear from people who are doing advocacy and education related to fibromyalgia.  "Thank you for your service" and thank you for taking the time to comment here.  ~~ Mardy

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Thanks for the summary, this helps me as a provider learn more

Thanks for the summary.  He sounds like someone I need to get to know better to train me on how to approach my future patients.  There is nothing more important to me than to become a complete and competent resource for my patients. 

I saw a lot of frustration on the faces of both the providers and the patients about chronic pain and fatigue.  Both sides were not informed enough to deal with these conditions.  As a student during my rotations, I decided to try my best to learn what I could do to avoid this.  It is still a work in progress but I will get there someday and resources like this encourage me!

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I am a recent physician assistant graduate who has stepped into the daunting field of interventional pain management.  I am eager to contribute what I learn along the way and, more importantly, learn from the experts who deal with pain every day, with the goal of providing compassionate and evidence-based care.

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GRATE to see this, Don! THIS is what I envisioned with Lumigrate

 Yes, yes, yes, PROVIDERS learning from what is at Lumigrate, which includes input from people who have conditions who are active and knowledgeable and have things to contribute which can help providers learn.  It's 360 degrees of learning!  

Thank you for taking the time to write, and I hope the people who read this will think about hitting the "Print" or "email" button that are provided in the Forums and get these types of things to THEIR providers and say 'please partner with me in digesting this information and trying some things, perhaps".  

By the way, my Sunday radio show is on and he is ending the show at noon with "Love is all you need" by the Beetles.  I think it is loving people who take the time to write at Lumigrate; we all have 24 hours in a day, various energy limitations, and it's definitely taking time away from the many of other things they have to chose from.  OR, this past week, I was reminded by meeting a new person over the phone and email, that some are so debilitated by CFS they can barely read a Tweet without their arms fatiguing (and becoming painful).  So for those who cannot read, I hope they have advocates; for those who cannot write, please put your energies to learning and absorbing and forming your opinions and taking action.  

For those who are at a place they can contribute, thank you! And I am re-minded, and am SO GRATEFUL, that the first provider I went to when the CFS hit me in 1989, my primary care physician, knew basically what it was and who in town to refer me to in town because they were connected to the progressive, valid information out of National Jewish Hospital in Denver, an hour away from where I was in Fort Collins. I was one of the 50% who made a recovery.  And it took me many more years of experience and getting my degree in OT, etc., but YOU all are why I work so hard at this.  I hope to provide something for the 50% who are not recovering yet from chronic illnesses. And something for those who are well and want to stay that way.  And EVERYONE in between.

Don, you started my Sunday off GRATE, thank you! ~~ Mardy 

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Live and Learn. Learn and Live Better! is my motto. I'm Mardy Ross, and I founded Lumigrate in 2008 after a career as an occupational therapist with a background in health education and environmental research program administration. Today I function as the desk clerk for short questions people have, as well as 'concierge' services offered for those who want a thorough exploration of their health history and direction to resources likely to progress their health according to their goals. Contact Us comes to me, so please do if you have questions or comments. Lumigrate is "Lighting the Path to Health and Well-Being" for increasing numbers of people. Follow us on social networking sites such as: Twitter: http://twitter.com/lumigrate and Facebook. (There is my personal page and several Lumigrate pages. For those interested in "groovy" local education and networking for those uniquely talented LumiGRATE experts located in my own back yard, "LumiGRATE Groove of the Grand Valley" is a Facebook page to join. (Many who have joined are beyond our area but like to see the Groovy information! We not only have FUN, we are learning about other providers we can be referring patients to and 'wearing a groove' to each other's doors -- or websites/home offices!) By covering some of the things we do, including case examples, it reinforces the concepts at Lumigrate.com as well as making YOU feel that you're part of a community. Which you ARE at Lumigrate!

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