It sometimes takes me years from the time I learn of something new to me 'outside the box' before I feel I find the experts and information that I'd want to integrate into a topic on Lumigrate.  AND I create things as needed by enough people I encounter who are wanting or needing this kind of information. Recently I had a coming together of a lot of people that I thought could benefit from a topic about indigo. So, this one's for YOU!

Finally, I encountered the expert I was waiting for this week in an interview on OneRadioNetwork.  An outside the box dentist in Manhattan, New York who early on reveals she went outside the box because she had Lyme disease and then "got over Lyme disease" and was still not well and then went on to heal herself with detoxification and energy medicine. Then she integrated what she personally found helpful to her as a medical consumer into what she did as a provider --- same story as I have shared many times as to why I created Lumigrate and left insurance-based medicine as well. Yes, the things that REALLY get you WELL are sometimes very simple, inexpensive and the inside the system (aka 'box') doesn't pay for it, and makes it difficult in many ways for some consumers to learn about.  Hence people have to do their homework.  

HOW and WHEN Dr. Brand got Lyme in her, and if she gave it to her children en utero perhaps, or it's being passed in families after birth is sometimes up in the air and unknown and she did not reveal on the interview linked to below, but it's certainly conceiveable and connects in my mind that she could have created these indigo offspring because of the 'bugs' in her at some point.  Just seems more than likely en utero.  A lot of people who get Lyme and remember tick bites think that's when Lyme started for them.  

Many believe, erroneously, that Lyme disease only started in the US with the Plum Island 'thing' near Lyme, CT... that is very not true, it's been around a long time.  It just went to a whole other level, and to me it's interesting that the woman who 'came up with and labeled' indigo children in the 1970s was on a timeline that seems to fit with the timeline about Lyme upticking and spreading in the US.  I know there's a lot of Lyme in China and many other countries.  Presuming it can be sexually transmitted as the early research is indicating, it's best to stop thinking about ticks so much. Mosquitos, fleas, and other insects can pass it apparently as well.  

Dr. Brand has co-authored a book with her 25 year old 'indigo' daughter, titled about the 'enlightened' indigo child.  Her son is also allegedly an indigo, but she and the daughter talk about him and the differences and different types of indigos a bit.  

So here's the link to the interview tab at OneRadioNetwork, and as usual I am providing (below) a portion of what you'll see if you go to the tab so that it will encourage you to go and hopefully find on the links to different types of topics or similar to this other things you'll find helpful in your learning.  oneradionetwork.com/spirituality/dr-idelle-brand-diandra-brand-9-ways-acknowledge-indigo-child-help-thrive-january-27-2015/

For those YOUsers at Lumigrate reading here who want a symptom list immediately, you can scroll a little ways down and find the blockquote/ grey boxes like this one and they will have the symptoms from websites about the fifth dimension or other ones and you'll see the symptom lists vary. So if I were to create a symptom list and put everything anyone ever said could be a symptom it might seem too varied and random.  

For my YOUsers and purposes I might distill that down and that would be filtering some things in and some things out.  This is why you need to look at MORE THAN ONE PLACE when studying any subject and I set up the ones that I like best for YOUsers so you might avoid traps (if I'm good at that, naturally).  OR I post the traps and say 'this is my impression of this information' so you start to hone your skill at researching!  

But here are a few of my favorites from ALL the symptoms/ characteristics I have seen in the topics, below, based upon the ones that I resonate with / remember feeling as a child when new to being here on Earth.  My first memory, by the way, is being in my crib and wanting out and crying and my family members were in the doorway of the bedroom laughing at me crying so hard I was choking.  My thought now that I speak English was "WTF kind of family did I come into?".  And as we say today "And so it began....": 

• They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice). {My father was retired USAF officer and also autism spectrum would be a label he'd get today more than likely. He had no idea how to deal with me, and my mother did (as she was an indigo too, I believe) and I just figured out how to avoid him getting his attention on me any more than I had to.  I kept my room clean, I worked to clean things up all the time and avoided things that would mean he'd have to help, like participating with the horses my older sibling had him get when younger). 
• They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them. {I like to leave in time to get somewhere to not be in the line but I also don't like to sit there before things start.  I also prefer to arrive at the start time so I can see who's in the room and where I energetically want to sit.  However, I then end up late sometimes if something comes up or goes wrong.  Psychological thinking is that is because you are wanting to make a grand entrance and get attention.  I'm not like that.  It took me forever to see that psycho-babble was not the 'word' and there was another dimension of thinking outside the box to explain why I did things the way I did and do. 
• They get frustrated with systems that are ritual-oriented and don’t require creative thought. {I will add here that I get frustrated with systems that just don't make any sense in terms of what they're creating as outcomes compared to what the alleged reason for the entity is.  Example: We're supposed to educate our children.  So why not give them sensory integration exercises since they do everyone good and drop some of the other things with activities and movementh that the system encourages, much of which contributes to more brain injury from concussive force trauma and further impairs our young people....}
• They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like “system busters” (nonconforming to any system). {I rented a black gown which was all I qualified for when graduating as an OT in 1996, though my classmates thought I was so smart and had such good grades in the OT program that I was going to be in green or gold with them.  I met with the department head and said that I thought it was wrong to make us sit through a whole semester class we paid them to teach us that told us all about not looking at people's skin color and discriminate and then graduate us and we got different colored robes based on our GPA.  OR I left insurance based medicine becasue I was not allowed to tell patients more than 'your inflammation might be caused by foods and other things so go look into that and talk to your provider if you wish' -- lying by omission is NOT for Mardy!} 
• They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially. {School was not difficult, I LOVED IT socially as I got to be around kids and other people besides my behaviorally goofy immediate family members.  As a teen I took a spiral notebook and used it as a journal and it ended with "thank goodness I'm now becoming friends with (so and so) because she is insightful about people and behavior and I have someone to talk to about all this stuff".}  
• They will not respond to “guilt” discipline (“Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did”). {I'll just say that I did respond to corporal/ physical abuse/ punishment and it only had to happen twice and should only have happened once in my opinion as my father maybe couldn't change his ways with just one situation of feedback.  Happens once shame on him and happens twice, shame on me... I learned to just stay as distant from him and out of his path as possible. I worked to have a good relationship as an adult and in particular after my mother died but even before I was born he already had all the kids he really was feeling a need to have and so that was his preference.  It's okay, I learned a LOT from it, particularly in his end of life as the behaviors were still there but he had become so impaired and in need of help and with less things stressing him out so he 'softened'; the behaviors I would learn after his death would indicate co-infections that typically come with Lyme (in addition to the progressive neurological disorder that indicates Lyme potentially per some researchers)  Indigos don't come to Earth and take the easy assignments, is my sense of it currently. }

So here's the interview on One Radio Network I think is a really easy way to get into this kind of information.  Patrick gets into talking about the smoothie that had things kind of gagging him a bit and so the start is a big rough but once he gets the ladies 'on the line' then it's a really easy thing to listen too ... they hit the highlights and it's not a ton of in-depth information. Hence I'm trying to spin more into this topic so people can get a really thorough overview from one topic.  

THE MORNING SHOW

with
Patrick Timpone

Dr. Idelle Brand and Diandra Brand

9 Ways to Acknowledge your Indigo Child–and Help Them Thrive

Indigo children are highly sensitive, and most noted for their extraordinary innate gifts in music, art, and academia. Many also have enriched sensory perception or psychic abilities. Acknowledging Indigo children will enlighten parents to new techniques in parenting so that their child can be well and flourish.

Dr. Idelle Brand is an integrative holistic practitioner and the parent of two healthy Indigo children. She believes Indigo children are the next generation in human evolution. Drawing from her extensive knowledge of conventional and complementary medicine along with her child-raising experiences, she has developed comprehensive modalities that help sensitive Indigo children achieve a sense of balance and well-being in their lives.

Dr. Brand shares 9 attributes that any parent can use to identify their child as an Indigo child. In addition, she can discuss:– Why being highly intuitive can also make Indigo children highly sensitive — Why some children seem to possess knowledge way beyond their age– Why invisible friends may be real to your child– Why Indigo children are so connected to nature and pets– Why bad dreams may be overwhelming to Indigo children — Why quiet time alone is important for maintaining health– How parents can make the home environment healthier for Indigos

Dr. Idelle Brand is a holistic dentist, integrative healer, and teacher of diverse complementary healing modalities. She is coauthor, with her daughter, Diandra Brand, of the new book, Enlightened Indigo Child: A Personal Guide to Flourishing with a Sixth Sense (2014, $17.95). Learn more at www.TheBrandWellnessCenter.com .

Show Highlights:

-Diandra, Dr. Brand’s daughter, joins us to share how her life is as an Indigo; she talks about remembering past lives and how she can see auras. Do all Indigos see them?

-Dr. Brand gives us some ideas on how to raise Indigo children; the importance of respecting their sensitivities as they are highly intuitive and oftentimes very sensitive to their environments.

-Dr. Brand tells us how so many children labeled as hyper active are often very creative Indigos; we can be learning from these kids

-Picking up on the past lives of others; Diandra tells us about her path as an intuitive and how she helps others with her gift

and so much more!!!

www.diandrahealer.com

www.TheBrandWellnessCenter.com

For those of us here in the third dimension, I'm going to introduce this topic by presenting a somewhat critical website's information about it because they did a great job with the history, and it's great for YOUsers to see that there are criticism of this information.  And hopefully we can think about if it's justifiable what people say as criticism -- stating that people make money consulting for services and websites and books seems very odd to me because why shouldn't someone make a living just like 'inside the box' providers? My costs to see people outside the box are the same as inside the box aside from not having to pay billing people, receptionists and as much overhead.  But my cost to feed myself and have a car and stay warm didn't change when I left the insurance-based medical system.  

Be aware the System (I call it 'the monkeys') make monkeybusiness websites with a lot of great information on them and then subtly dissuade people from 'getting into' the outside the box info and movement through them.  And it's very hard to find out and know who's legit and who's operating on a reason they don't disclose.  So just do your homework and then decide what YOU think after considerable investigation.  Don't just go to WebMD and expect you'll get an unbiased article.  Don't just go to Mercola either.  I try to meld the two as long as it's not totally corruped information and sometimes I add that and point out what I suspect is manipulative information.  

So here's the first chunk of information I want to provide and the link to find this at the website it's from: 

Many believe Indigo children are the next step in human evolution, and they are often described as possessing a new energy never before seen on Earth. Believers claim they have special gifts, such as psychic abilities, and are “sensitive” to the world around them. They are allegedly wise beyond their years and thirst for knowledge incessantly. Their parents often see them as gifted with above-average intelligence. Above all, believers agree on one thing: they are here to teach us a lesson.

The first Indigo child was allegedly observed in the early 1970s by Nancy Tappe, who intuitively “sees” people’s auras (Tappe 1999). Tappe claims that she can decipher a person’s life mission by the color he or she emits. She further states that she was aware that two new unknown colors—one of which would become Indigo—would be emerging around that time, since apparently, fuchsia and magenta disappeared from the spectrum. It wasn’t until 1982, with the publication of her book Understanding Your Life Through Color, that the proclamation of the Indigo aura and its meaning was announced  (Carroll and Tober 1999). The Indigo children movement, however, did not gain full momentum until 1999, when Lee Carroll and Jan Tober wrote the book The Indigo Children: The New Kids Have Arrived. Since then, the Indigo movement has been featured in books, television, a feature film titled Indigo, and even two videogames titled Fahrenheit and Indigo Prophecy.

What Is an Indigo Child?

The ten most common traits of Indigo children, according to Carroll and Tober, are:

They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it).

They have a feeling of “deserving to be here,” and are surprised when others don’t share that.

Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents “who they are.”

They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).

They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.

They get frustrated with systems that are ritual-oriented and don’t require creative thought.

They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like “system busters” (nonconforming to any system).

They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.

They will not respond to “guilt” discipline (“Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did”).

They are not shy in letting you know what they need. (Carroll and Tober 1992)

The descriptors can change a bit depending on the source, but these traits are congruent with the typical account of an Indigo child. Nancy Tappe goes on to claim that at least 90 percent of children under the age of ten are, in fact, Indigo children (Tappe 1999).

Tappe (1999) lists and describes the four subtypes of Indigo children. The humanist is characterized by strong opinions, is socially outgoing, and is easily distracted. The conceptual subtype is comprised of children who are more interested in completing projects than human interaction. Tappe offers a warning that this subtype is prone to addiction, particularly in their teen years. The artist is a child who is typically smaller in size and often more sensitive. The fourth subtype is the interdimensional child, who is larger than the other three subtypes, is often seen as a bully, and can be expected to bring in new religions and philosophical beliefs.

There is maybe some overlap with what people call 'indigo people' (or indigo children and indigo adults) with things others think are more biological, such as 'pyroluria' / 'pyrrole disorder'. When I first learned of pyroluria it was staggering how much that seemed like the missing link I had been looking for to explain things that didn't add up with what I'd been taught or learned in various ways so far.  Why did I see physical symptoms of environmental illness (pain and fatigue, etc.) and behavioral symptoms seeming to run in the same families, and sometimes the patients had both. Why were the patients with the high intelligence and high functioning who had chronic pain/ fatigue complaining that their families didn't believe them that they had the symptoms they had? My patients who had other medical diagnoses from medical professionals inside the box didn't have that trouble, typically.   

I look at things from a mind, body, spirit perspective, which is the foundation of 'integrative medicine' which is holistic / 'whole person' or whole-istic some write it to help people understand. 

I've fortunately had the opportunity to work with a variety of people formally or informally related to things that are affecting their cognitive or motor (muscle / movement) skills and was certified in a 40 hour class in The Assessment of Motor and Process Skills long ago, when I was first an occupational therapist.  It was difficult to use formally, but it was the most important thing I did beyond the required training to set myself up to have a good skill set in that profession.  And I have used it informally every moment since, I think.  Words like "notice" are so important to safety and function.  

At that time I was aware of people with M.S. or Parkinsons disease, dementia, etc., and ended up being utilized in the systems that hired me to assess the elderly in senior living environments to recommend if they needed to move to assisted living with more care provided, or to skilled nursing. Naturally, they wanted to remain in their independent apartments as long as possible.  There was quite an isolated reality that I saw in the assisted living areas -- moreso than the skilled nursing because that was like being in the hospital in a way and people would come and visit them.  For some reason it seemed the people in assisted living in those facilities at that time were kind of in a no-man's land.  I called it patient purgatory. It's similar to what happens to people who are of age to learn to drive typically but their brains are not suited for it.  They either need more time to develop and mature, or they need to have the help to find the underlying issues that are causing the problem and those are things the system does not teach either through teachers at school or with doctors and providers who take insurance. (Generally speaking.)

Then PPS came along from Medicare in about 1997, a year into my new career. The "prospective payment system" where the facility staff would 'prospect' how much a patient could tolerate of therapies and they'd then pay you for that, and essentially you had to account for the time you spend working with them in therapies and it was a lot of gobbledeygook to figure out and took staff time (which costs money).  It dramatically shook the tree of the former 'cash cow' system that many businesses quit having therapy services and 50% of therapists were not employed as therapists in 1999 I have heard from one knowledgeable physical therapist. Was this in the news anywhere? No.  

I went to work in driving rehabilitation at that point in time, for an innovative 'outside the box' company that dared to tread on the turf of the driving rehabilitation profession by having a brilliant businessman and successful racecar driver upset their apple cart of driving rehab by not having a pedigree (college degree) in occupational therapy.  Ideally they would have hired one of those OTs with experience but they were all set in jobs with good pay and benefits the way The System provided at the time.  I took the chance on them making good on promises for base plus commission estimates, and that didn't materialize because they didn't have the facility space for me to work with people and bill them for the time at first, construction delays.  

So once that was all worked out there had been a quadrupling of the revenues from the time I came in to be the first OT to be heading up the rehabilitation program.  Sometimes the pay you get is not in money for your time, it's the experience, and in this case it was making me rich in things that I still draw upon today.  And share here with you and I hope it is value-able to YOUsers. 

And at the time, I was really thankful that at least I could be using the degree I'd worked so hard to get, and basically changed my whole life for in order to have the career in medicine and health care. It took me until I was 22 years on Earth before I got into a class, intro to OT, and KNEW what my 'calling' was to be 'doing' while here on Earth.  I remember it was such a relief.  Older people with stressors on them think back to when they were young and thought it was so great -- I remember such stress it was almost unbearable at times, particularly related to testing in college.  

It turns out my learning disabilities had caught up with me finally.  Unfortunately nobody around me know the outside the box information about what makes the brain tick right, develop correctly, and function correctly.  It turns out that a high number of people have these kinds of problems today -- dyslexia, spatial orientation dysfunction, sequencing, being able to take in and process effective responses with signals that get out to your fingers or feet, etc.

Today, my wish is that people find this information out and get the nutrition changed for people no matter what the age, but in particularly 'the younger the better'.  Damage done can be reversed, but it's a lot of work and can you ultimately get back to where you'd have been had the deficiency not occurred in the first place?  Maybe with some things, maybe not with all. But many things help a great deal and 'reversing symptoms' is what it's all about these days around functional medicine circles.  More people are finding out about it all the time.  

Ultimately the vision therapy my parents knew about but put off taking me for was what I found first. I'd find a nutrition advisor in a chiropractor a couple of years later, who thankfully a former coworker insisted I go to (because I'd met him socially and didn't like him).  

I was finally able to pay for these things when I was in my late 20s, which was only due to my husband and I having good jobs for about 5 years and worked our way up the ladder of promotions and pay. Even though I made half what he did, I always paid half of the costs we incurred with our home and living expenses such as groceries and  utilities.  Vision development and functional vision are things that special optometrists and therapists do with people but it's not something insurance will pay for.

So in my case, I had to get to a certain point in my life to pay for something my parents had the ability to pay for easily by the time I was having less than ideal grades in school as a teenager. In their case they were more 'into their things' and in my father's case, he was also struggling with the symptoms of environmental illness (he'd have gotten a fibromyalgia diagnosis if that had been invented as a label then, if he went to a provider who would be aware of it and think that a man could have it which so many still get missed-diagnosed).  And in their case it was likely that 'insurance doesn't pay for it'.. and the belief many had that 'someone else' ('daddy'/the system) is going to take care of things, not us. So I suggest people take the time and pause and reflect on how YOU think.  And how that is affecting you or has affected your child / children.  It's costly, and reprioritization has to happen for most individuals and families.  But it's something I encourage you do and just whittle away at it.  Some things are not that expensive and much can be done free researching online. 

Basically, I came to eventually figure out that if insurance doesn't pay for something that makes a lot of sense as a service or product, then you will benefit from REALLY looking at what that can do for you or your child (or parent or whomever you're advocating for), becasue chances are there will be something fundamental that will solve problems that the system (the monkeys) doesn't then get to make money off of in the future.  Sorry to have to say that, but it does seem that is the case.  Again, monkeys and their business.  This is not my circus and those are not my monkeys is a funny expression I learned recently.  

I wish that in those days I knew about "indigo children".  I only started looking into it about 2010 and then in 2014 when I heard autism and Lyme specialist Deitrich Klinghardt, MD, PhD educating people by saying that parents going all into their children being indigos -- in his opinion they have pyroluria / pyrrole disorder. My ears perked up and I thought "that makes perfect sense".  I was transcribing an interview at the time and so I included it, naturally, and the world continued spinning after I'd included such a 'far out there' concept on Lumigrate. So now it seems it's waranted to create a whole topic about indigo as a concept about people.  

Hey, some of the Lumigrate YOUsers are going to be further out than others, and they may be further out of the box than I am, personally.  But I do try to find that 'sweet spot'. 

Here's what I found at the following link, which is a topic focused about autism at a website that is titled about crystal children (which seemed to crop up after indigo in the outside the box spiritual circles. At the very end mentions indigo: crystalchild.wordpress.com/tag/indigo-child/page/2/

I came across a couple more autism websites that I feel drawn to share. 

1.  Dr. Klinghardt’s website on autism is here.

There are a number of videos where he talks about the causes and treatment of autism.

2.   Also here’s a link to Dana Gorman’s Defeat Autism Yesterday website here.

She has a lot of information on her site, but I especially like her list of free things that you can do, which is here.

Interestingly, the first thing that she lists is Emotional Freedom  Techique (EFT), which Dr. Klinghardt says increases uptake of nutrients in the brain by 60% and is the  deciding factor between which of his patients heal and don’t. I’ve mentioned this before, but instructions on how to do EFT is provided here. 

I haven’t had a chance to fully go through her website yet, but I intend to. I believe this information can help many children, but especially sensitive children, including crystal and indigo children. 

At this point I'd direct YOUsers interested in stepping through information to think about how indigo may be something valid (or not) and why it occurs (or doesn't for those who do not wish to subscribe to this kind of information) by making their way how I'd suggest people go about it to take the journey on this link and read a good review at MentalHealth dot net's metapsychology website about the book Spiritually Healing the Indigo Children (and Adult Indigos, Too!)

The Practical Guide and Handbook
by Wayne Dosick and Ellen Kaufman
Jodere Group, 2004
Review by Shelly Marshall, B.S., CSAC
Apr 28th 2005 (Volume 9, Issue 17)

While it would have the expected 'kabosh' on saying they agreed with this kind of thing, it appears to be a well written overview of what's in a book about indigos.  Here's the link:

 metapsychology.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php

For the symptom list, I wanted to provide something about ADULT symptoms of being an indigo.  This is from the website In5D (as 'in the fifth dimension').  And here's the link: in5d.com/indigo-adult-characteristics/

 

How many of the following do YOU have?  Comment below!

* Are intelligent, though may not have had top grades.

* Are very creative and enjoy making things.

* Always need to know WHY, especially why they are being asked to do something.

* Had disgust and perhaps loathing for much of the required and repetitious work in school.

* Were rebellious in school in that they refused to do homework and rejected authority of teachers, OR seriously wanted to rebel, but didn’t DARE, usually due to parental pressure.

* May have experienced early existential depression and feelings of helplessness. These may have ranged from sadness to utter despair. Suicidal feelings while still in high school or younger are not uncommon in the Indigo Adult.

* Have difficulty in service-oriented jobs. Indigos resist authority and caste system of employment.

* Prefer leadership positions or working alone to team positions.

* Have deep empathy for others, yet an intolerance of stupidity.

* May be extremely emotionally sensitive including crying at the drop of a hat (no shielding) Or may be the opposite and show no expression of emotion (full shielding).

* May have trouble with RAGE.

* Have trouble with systems they consider broken or ineffective, ie. political, educational, medical, and legal.

 

* Frustration with or rejection of the traditional American dream – 9-5 career, marriage, 2.5 children, house with white picket fence, etc.

 

* Alienation from or anger with politics – feeling your voice won’t count and/or that the outcome really doesn’t matter.

* Anger at rights being taken away, fear and/or fury at “Big Brother watching you.”

* Have a burning desire to do something to change and improve the world. May be stymied what to do. May have trouble identifying their path.

* Have psychic or spiritual interest appear fairly young – in or before teen years.

* Had few if any Indigo role models. Having had some doesn’t mean you’re not an indigo, though.

* Have strong intuition. * Random behavior pattern or mind style – (symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder).  May have trouble focusing on assigned tasks, may jump around in conversations.

* Have had psychic experiences, such as premonitions, seeing angels or ghosts, out of body experiences, hearing voices.

* May be electrically sensitive such as watches not working and street lights going out as you move under them, electrical equipment malfunctioning and lights blowing out.

* May have awareness of other dimensions and parallel realities.

* Sexually are very expressive and inventive OR may reject sexuality in boredom or with intention of achieving higher spiritual connection. May explore alternative types of sexuality.

* Seek meaning to their life and understanding about the world May seek this through religion or spirituality, spiritual groups and books, self-help groups and books.

* When they find balance they may become very strong, healthy, happy individuals.

Please note, anyone could have a few of these traits, but Indigo Adults have most or all of these 25 characteristics.

 

 

Post Script - Why I Think This is Important to Include "Indigo" Information on Lumigrate At This Time

THIS TOPIC IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION SO CHECK BACK UNTIL YOU SEE THIS NO LONGER HERE AND THEN ITS DONE BUT THERE WILL BE SOMETHING TO GET STARTED ON FOR NOW

I've recently been 'working' with a couple of folks or homes or systems / families that were not aware of the term 'Indigo Children' or 'Indigo People'.  I've also been more aware than ever in recent years, since the new DSM of behavioral and mental health diagnosing came out (at $150 a piece) and the way I'd initially thought "this is great, there's now something that describes literally EVERY person there is out there and that makes it easier to communicate concepts professionally". One of these situation is with someone who professionally lived as I did for many years, steeping in the terms that the allopathic mental health world used when working with patients and clients.  Their experience was entirely with young adults and adolescents.  "Juvenile delinquents" we'd maybe say informally.  Juvies.  

The other is a situation where the young adult has had the wheels come off the functional bus, so to speak and appears somewhat eager or willing to learn.  And I got the sense that they'd been steeped in the conventional education system's 'labeling' and beliefs, which naturally the parents pick up and reinforce.  Then by the time the THIRD person I spoke with this week was in the same realm of information need and I was bringing up the interesting theories about Indigos I've studied lately, I figured it was simply time to put one of my thorough threads on Lumigrate.  

Sometimes when creating a new topic at Lumigrate the biggest challenge is figuring which forum from ALL the forums (and sections (formally known as 'containers') is THE best one to put it in, and this forum was what seemed best overall for where someone might be looking around to find information on things to do with 'indigos'.  

This is after I've decided if the topic is going to be 'outside the box'  the right amount or not.  And I build new content as I find needs to provide information to people I'm working with and see that 'there's a need for this, I've been 'aware' this is going on but so far have not had this at the TOP of the 'priority list'.  

The subject can be too "far out" and disspell someone who might then miss other topics that aren't as far outside the box, and naturally since I'm weaving content about functional medicine and integrative medicine, there is much from inside the box that I utilize as well.  That's where my formal training in occupational therapy was, obviously, and I was raised in  my family of origin by very inside the box parents when it came to the medical attention they subscribed to and provided for me. Let me tell a little story -- get a blankey, a cup of tea (put something healthy in it for sweetener if you want it that way...).  

Even the chiropractor my dad got to going to in the  mid 1970s when I was about fifteen was just a manipulator, as I jokingly call them now.  He didn't talk about diet, he didn't sell supplements that I am aware of, and he didn't do any kind of 'kinesiology' testing. Some chiropractors today are actually more  manipulative in that they do all that other stuff and are they really being ethical in how they treat patients?  Because of my time in the trenches with my work and my personal health care forays to providers, I've heard and seen a lot of things. Like anything, all fields have a variety of providers when it comes to honesty, integrity, ethics, in addition to the other things that are more obvioius like if they make you feel they're respecting you or not, bedside manner it might be called in allopathic circles, etc. 

That first D.C. in the 1970s only looked at how you were structurally and cracked you.  $12 a session or on Tuesdays it was family day and for another $3 the whole family could be seen.  So I was allowed to go to my dad's chiropractor if I wanted to as it was only $3 for me to get the treatment. I just recently saw what the term is today for what I was found to have back then; my mother had it as well the one time she drove me down there to meet my dad there for us to be seen for the $3.  

She opted to not go back, but I wanted to, so I took myself every week for a while once I was 16 (using quite a lot of the $5 I was allowed for fuel which was about $1 a gallon then but I only got 12 mpg on the old family station wagon my parents thankfully gave me with the responsibility to drive safely, keep my grades up so I'd have the 'good student discount', and being told I'd have to pay the difference if my grades went down and I no longer qualified for the discount.  Which was not a problem as I ended up graduating in the top 25% based on GPA in my class, but I had been on a downward trend on GPA every since kindergarden. Seriously!

My second grade teacher saw my learning disabilities and I and two boys (eyeroll at the time) were taken by the principal to the administration hub for the county (which I now realize was a leading edge for education reform county in the US) and tested.  I remember some of what that entailed. But there was not a qualified professional, allegedly, contracted to interpret the test results and determine what we had and so the district's attention to my issues ended at that point never to be brought up again. Until recently when I took the time to educate myself about education history in the US and the reform that has been underway since President Eisenhower's signing an agreement, apparently, with the USSR at the time, I thought it was just 'falling through the cracks'.  

At the time and once I was an adult, certainly, I thought my mother should have been more concerned, proactive and involved because she volunteered to teach the 1/3 of each class (after the 'special ed' students were in their classroom, this was before the 'inclusion' concept was in use) with the biggest brain dysfunction affecting their muscle tone, balance, coordination and grades, etc.  Once she even had a family have their parent-teacher-student meeting about her concerns at our home to be more convenient for the family and so I overheard what she said as I was right in the entryway of the house where she spoke with them.  She recommended a special optometrist in Denver who it turns out Lynn Hellerstein, OD, was going to at that time, later to be inspired by that and go on to follow in that ground-breaker's footsteps with her career in functional vision development.  (She's an expert with a couple of topics on Lumigrate if you Search at our search bar). 

Once I had my driver's license which took a long time of practicing with both parents because of my learning disabilities and psycho-motor processing problems, I started driving myself to see the D.C. after I got home from school which was early afternoon due to school overcrowing and being on 'split sessions' and being in the morning session.  I really don't remember why we quit going, but I do remember thinking it was not solving the problem and just fixing symptoms temporarily, and it didn't make sense to keep popping things like that, it certainly could have potential side effects long term.  I like that I had that insight.   

About the Generations and Priorities About Treatments and Resources -- Out With the Old and In With the New; The Times They Are a-Changin'... 

This is a very important aspect, in my opinion, of explaining the 'indigo' situation.  I believe my mother was an indigo, and that I was and am.  My father was not.  So they had their different priorities.  My mother wanted to be creating a space with land they owned to grow food on and she took the garden we enjoyed working on together to the organic level which at the time I didn't understand and wished we could just spray pesticides like everyone else.  I didn't mind the weeds and pulling them but I did not like eating the aphids that were missed as much as we tried to get them off of the cruciferous vegetables they liked to take up occupancy in.  Wisdom comes with experience sometimes, and sometimes you're 'just born with it'.  

This timeframe with the chiropractic and my getting something I needed as long as the 'value' was tied to the family discount and was a 'good deal' for $3 upcharge was at a time when their combined income was maybe about $60,000 (today if they were in the jobs they had I'd guess it would be about 3x that, to put it in perspective today for clarity of those readiang who don't have the life experience to translate that) and they were preparing to purchase property to grow food for our family (and others) on in another state to retire to and be prepared for the times my mother said she foresaw happening "probably after we're not alive anymore but you will be" were her words I believe. Did her foreseeing the future and what she believed was going to happen after she was dead, and wanting to set me up for succeeding through influence her priorities on spending money for what I needed in order for each DAY and MOMENT of each day to not be more difficult for me.  

Perhaps. I'd guess the answer to that is 'yes, that was part of it'.  The other part of it was that she had addiction issues and those included caffeine, nicotine, spending time with her coworkers laughing, smoking and drinking coffee in the teachers lounge after work and being either at home or at the local restaurant's bar area with the teacher gang and having a martini or two or three and at home it was eventually five. It's very easy to see addictions to the more commonly focused upon things, but was she addicted to her work and raising children was not part of her priorities? Should we be calling that a 'problem' or could we look at it through the lens of 'indigo' and see it was a quality of an indigo? 

As I went out into the world at 18 and to University and taking care of my needs 100% through income from a job, living cheaply in a trailer at a mobile home park near campus so I and later my love and future husband could get by on the $5/hour jobs we had as we worked our way as full time students trying to get our desired college degrees, the 'adults' and 'authorities' and books and etc. that I found and had access to were all 'from within the system'.  I was surrounded with the psychology of 'the system' that stems from the ICD-9 codes of physical medicine and the DSM guidebook of mental and behavioral health labeling.  

"Labels are for jars" was something I found in one of the topics I'm weaving into this piece with links below.  So I went through many years of looking at the 'dysfunction' in my family of origin because I only had the 'inside the box' resources to learn from.  I lived and tried to make a change for myself and my loved ones from within that paradigm and I saw the limited success. For starters, it's expensive and takes dollars out of pocket or the insurance company's coffers.  And the statistics for conventional 'inside the box' rehab for addiction is about 20% success.  So that's why my efforts to have that route taken for my mother failed. And she died when I was 26. 

However, just before my 21st birthday I had a dream that I remembered and related to my fiance and he said he'd had a dream too that haunted him all day in his mind.  We traded stories.  And went  home and got the phone call within an hour that his brother had been killed in a car crash.  The next morning what I'd seen in my dream played out in 'real life' to exact detail.  Two days later, arriving for the funeral at his brother's family's home in a neighboring state where he'd been forced to move by the court system to try to get his life back in order as part of his parole, my beloved's dream he'd told me about played out exactly as he'd related it to me.  

Talk about a paradigm shift! How did that happen? There has to be more to the world than what I previous was taught to believe. So there was a 'dovetailing' in this timeframe where I was shifting. I wasn't even aware of it then, but I can reflect back and see it.  I went to my mother directly and privately after my suggestion about intervention was shot down by my father, and talked to her in what I now realize was our spiritual 'space'.  

"This is how I want to live and this is how I want to die" she said. And I 'got that' at a spiritual level, which eased things for me when she passed unexpectedly and suddenly from what I didn't understand for years was at least in part from a condition I have inherited from her.  I'm at the same risk.  I do my best to lower my chances of injury or death 'prematurely'.

(And if you were ask the gal who I 'loaned' my skis to because it is so final to sell things you love and think you'll never get to play on them again -- this is not 'easy' for me, it's a new realization based on that I finally learned about Ehlers - Danlos Syndrome and what all the symptoms and types of the condition are. I'd been asking my MDs, ODs, NDs, PhDs, DCs, DDSs... nobody ever said anything about Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome because they'd not yet learned.  You see we cannot know what we have not yet learned.  I'm normally with a good shell around my 'heart' in terms of sensitivity but I had a shaman work on that in 2009 and now I cry in some situations. It's so strange to not ever cry in public until after you've had that kind of work done.  I maybe will get used to it someday.  But you'll see the easily crying or not crying much at all as symptoms of 'indigo' people in one of the resources I provide in this topic.

I elaborated on this here because I wanted to point out that a symptom I had experienced life-long changed dramatically and instantly when I had a session with a healer who did that type of work, w which was coming from the 'spiritual' aspect.  

Same as the incredibly fast and dramatic improvement in how I felt overall when I changed my nutritional supplements from my old regimen when I learned of "pyrrole disorder / pyroluria" and had enough input to do a trial and see what happened.  That would be 'physical'/body aspect if it's a chemical that is making the difference, but it affects the brain and also the mind and mental functioning.   

I will also be showing you what I had put last year on Lumigrate from Dr Dietrich Klinghardt about pyroluria / pyrrole disorder and 'indigo children' / indigo people. Because I discovered that 'missing link' through my work for Lumigrate and my consulting with consumers with a returning person asking for additional advise for a new situation. For the overall 'what's making everyone so screwed up behaviorally and in the same family some have chronic pain and fatigue', and for my personal symptoms.  

As you'll see at one of the links I'm setting up on this topic thread, people tend to get almost instant results from supplementing properly once they realize they have pyroluria / pyrrole disorder, which is what my experience was.. and then a plateau it is said at the resource, and then the improvements continue again.  I actually stopped any of my new supplements for it and let everything just go back to 'status quo' until I learned more about MTHFR gene mutation, detoxification pathways and etc.  (And I put information on Lumigrate about that as well). 

Dr Klinghardt had blown my mind with how it 'connected more dots' when he said that indigo children have their abilities because of having pyrrole disorder! That made such perfect sense and I had been saying 'it's like the most intuitive people I know about the world and what's going on have injured brains and many with chronic pain and fatigue as well -- what's the reason for that'.

I didn't yet know what I had not yet learned.  Same as you reading this now and I hope this topic takes you to a new understanding and at least gives you new things to consider. 

Live and Learn. Learn and Live Better! ~ Mardy

As I sometimes do, I dedicate this topic to the 'indigos' that I have been influenced by today (whether they even know they're indigos or not!) and most of all my mother, who was a "February Angel", born 90 years ago this month.  To my friends who have brought their indigo people to Earth as children I had the pleasure to be around from just after birth in some cases, I've been learning from you and not knowing it all along the way.  I hope I've done this justice.  

And I hope we see the part about adults with Lyme (whether we know we have Lyme or not in us) having babies with this indigo condition and connect those dots in your own way.  I believe it means they also have Lyme as a cofactor within them that could benefit from treatment.

In my opinion, if it were me, not in the 'give them something to go after the bugs' way but in a way to facilitate the strengths of the body and reduce the 'load' on them from the myriad of things that burden us today -- not having the right things in our food and drink, having the wrong things in our food and drink, EMFs, topical toxins in our body care products and breathing things in the home or car or school that are disruptive to the order of the system. And why do I say 'if it were me'?  As we know, I did not have babies, not because I tried and couldn't, because I was not going to have children with the person I had planned to have them with if they didn't take care of the issues they had with addictions.  Why did they have addictions (and so many others since, sadly?) PYROLURIA and 'the bugs'.  Blessings...